What would you do here? Part 2

KoolKat9Lives

Taught 'em all I know
Silver Member
Wasn't it Billy I that proclaimed "there's ONLY 1 correct shot each turn in 1 pocket"? Hmmmm. :p

I could find 18 different ways to mess this shot up. :grin-square:
 

spanky79

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I would take a foul and soft kick to the end rail and put the cue ball behind the 12, trying to get as close to the 12 as possible.

then he just leaves you behind the 12 and your screwed, that is why I would move the 12
 

spanky79

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Yeah, not the shot I would shoot.

The thing I don't like about going behind the 12, is the reply shot is too easy. The opponent only has to nudge the 12 a little, and even if he somehow doesn't hit a rail, it puts the OP in a much worse spot than he is here.

Obviously being biased, but I like my kick behind the 11 and to possibly move the 2 ball as well. Now the opponent still has a relatively easy safe by playing off the 6 and putting you behind the 10 and 1, but that's much easier to get out of than if you were stuck behind the 12.

if you dont hit the kick dead perfect the game is over. Put him in the top corner he has no shot
 

td873

C is for Cookie
Silver Member
I would try to double/triple/quadruple up on the 12 if I could. Either by the 13 or the 5. But it's only gonna get worse from there. The net is pretty tight and you need to figure out a way to get something moved close to your hole to at least have some threat. You may be able to get out of the trap in a few innings, but it's gonna take patience. If you want to react by being impatient and whack the stack, maybe one pocket isn't the right game for you. Lol.

Taking a flyer to rearrange the furniture now is a sell out. Even if it works out, it wasn't the right shot - just a lucky one. Anyone that tried to do it is either playing for free, mad at their wallet, or playing with someone else's money.

-td
 

ShortBusRuss

Short Bus Russ - C Player
Silver Member
It's kind of hard to tell if it is possible, but if it is, I like hitting the 10, banking it one rail and rubbing the 11 towards the 14, whilst freezing the CB to the side of tthe 1, only allowing your opponent to see the 6.

1. I don't think hitting the 10 and attempting to freeze the CB to the 6 is gonna get a whole lotta movement on any balls in front of your opponent's pocket.

2. From behind the 6,the opponent will have any easy return shot by playing off the 5 and drawing back behind the 1, putting you in a similar conundrum to which you are now in..

Again, this is 100% dependent on being able to move the 11 with the 10. Moving the 11 prevents being able to combo the ball in front of the pocket with the 11.

If you can successfuly execute moving the 11 with the 10 AND freezing to the side of the 1, then your opponent will either need to take a foul by kicking down table, or will have to play off either the 1 or 6. I think any of these three options leaves you better off on the return shot than you are now. The 10 may back up slightly off the the 11 and get near the 8, effectively killing any possibility of a future 8-2 combo.

But What do I know? I'm a C player!!!

Short Bus Russ - C Player
 
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ShortBusRuss

Short Bus Russ - C Player
Silver Member
Another few things to consider:

Hitting the 10 hard and freezing to the 6 means 1 of three things will occur-

1. The 10 hits slightly under the 11. This means the 10 will carom backwards off the 11 at high speed..towards the 8. The 8 will comes towards the 1/6. The balls you are hiding behind.. Yikes!

2. The 10 cuts the 11, which runs directly into the face of the 2. This will cause a double kiss that will essentially leave the 2 where it is now, whilst the double-kissed 11 exits stage right into parts unknown.. Possibly at high speed into the 8 or 6?

3. If you can manage to hit the 11 full with the 10 (which I don't think you can, and still freeze to the 6..), the 11 now "tucks under" the 2, and pretty much stays in the area, whilst the 2 banks one rail off the side of the 14... Again, heading toward the 8, possibly dislodging the CB.

When combined which the fact that you have to strike the 10 harder to get a decent result, and which a longer distance to move to freeze to the 6...

Well, let's just say... As a C player, I don't think I could execute it.. :)

Short Bus Russ - C Player
 

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
Gold Member
Silver Member
It's kind of hard to tell if it is possible, but if it is, I like hitting the 10, banking it one rail and rubbing the 11 towards the 14, whilst freezing the CB to the side of tthe 1, only allowing your opponent to see the 6.

1. I don't think hitting the 10 and attempting to freeze the CB to the 6 is gonna get a whole lotta movement on any balls in front of your opponent's pocket.

2. From behind the 6,the opponent will have any easy return shot by playing off the 5 and drawing back behind the 1, putting you in a similar conundrum to which you are now in..

Again, this is 100% dependent on being able to move the 11 with the 10. Moving the 11 prevents being able to combo the ball in front of the pocket with the 11.

If you can successfuly execute moving the 11 with the 10 AND freezing to the side of the 1, then your opponent will either need to take a foul by kicking down table, or will have to play off either the 1 or 6. I think any of these three options leaves you better off on the return shot than you are now. The 10 may back up slightly off the the 11 and get near the 8, effectively killing any possibility of a future 8-2 combo.

But What do I know? I'm a C player!!!

Short Bus Russ - C Player

Shooting shots like this will get you kicked off the short bus Russ! :smile:
 

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
Gold Member
Silver Member
Another few things to consider:

Hitting the 10 hard and freezing to the 6 means 1 of three things will occur-

1. The 10 hits slightly under the 11. This means the 10 will carom backwards off the 11 at high speed..towards the 8. The 8 will comes towards the 1/6. The balls you are hiding behind.. Yikes!

2. The 10 cuts the 11, which runs directly into the face of the 2. This will cause a double kiss that will essentially leave the 2 where it is now, whilst the double-kissed 11 exits stage right into parts unknown.. Possibly at high speed into the 8 or 6?

3. If you can manage to hit the 11 full with the 10 (which I don't think you can, and still freeze to the 6..), the 11 now "tucks under" the 2, and pretty much stays in the area, whilst the 2 banks one rail off the side of the 14... Again, heading toward the 8, possibly dislodging the CB.

When combined which the fact that you have to strike the 10 harder to get a decent result, and which a longer distance to move to freeze to the 6...

Well, let's just say... As a C player, I don't think I could execute it.. :)

Short Bus Russ - C Player

Play shots like this and soon you will be called No Bus Russ!
 

coastmezz

Registered
I banked the 13 hanging in my pocket with the cue ball behind the 12. He had no shot and tried a safe but failed and left a shot on the 13. Ran two balls and played safe
 
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