Why Is This Shot So Difficult For Me?

[DrCue'sProtege]

besides lack of ability, that is.

anyway, pocket the 1-Ball, come around 2 or 3 rails for correct position on the 2-Ball near Point A for the natural angle for the 3-Ball. i invariably come up short, leaving myself a difficult position play. then when i try and hit it a little harder i end up going too far and miss position.

assume this shot either has to be hit with a little left english or slightly below center. you posters have any ideas that could help me here?

DCP

CueTable Help

 

[poolplayer2093]

i like shooting that shot with a little more draw. it brings you in tighter to the upper right corner pocker and closer to the lower side pocket but i think it makes it easier to pocket the 1 with confidence and a little more authority and get a bigger margin for error on shape for the 2

 

[poolplayer2093]

if i focus on hitting specific points on the rails i find playing possition easier

 

[BVal]

I wanna know who broke and only left the 1,2,3 and 9 on the table.
Must be a monster!

BVal

 

[Russ Chewning]

It's tough because the speed of the shot does not lay natural.

Practice it.

You do realize you have to practice shots that are tough for you, right? Everyone has shots that are tougher than normal for them to hit, so they practice them.

You're going to have to get on a table and regularly practice the shots that are tough, man.

Or, to summarize and answer your question:

It is tough for you because you do not practice it. I mean, come ON. It's kind of like asking "Why is this 5 rail draw shot so difficult for me?"

Ummm.... Because it's a tough shot. Practice it, and it won't be a tough shot for you anymore.

What do you want us to say to answer the thread title, man?

Russ

 

[bob_bushka]

if i focus on hitting specific points on the rails i find playing possition easier

set it up and pravtice the shot for couple hundred times. After all the cue ball is traveling about 12 feet so I think you simply need to keep your center ball hit going but work on your cue ball speed.

 

[Neil]

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[poolhustler]

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Got it??????????????

LOL

Russ.......

 

[Matt_24]

besides lack of ability, that is.

anyway, pocket the 1-Ball, come around 2 or 3 rails for correct position on the 2-Ball near Point A for the natural angle for the 3-Ball. i invariably come up short, leaving myself a difficult position play. then when i try and hit it a little harder i end up going too far and miss position.

assume this shot either has to be hit with a little left english or slightly below center. you posters have any ideas that could help me here?

DCP

CueTable Help

Hmm.....work on getting better shape initially and you won't have to go for these hard two/three rail position shots. Those are brutal for champions. But...I guess the common sense answer is practice that scenario 100 times until you have the speed down.

 

[VonRhett]

Yep. This is the EXACT SAME answer for most, if not all, of your shot questions on here.

Not trying to embarrass you here, but after PRACTICING this exact shot about 1000 times (literally), you'll be able to land the CB on a quarter-sized spot.

Then - an only then - will you be able to make this decision:

should I use 1/2 tip of English and end up at spot A (please note that your second rail spot is way off) OR hit it firmer with more English and go 3 rails for ideal shape.

BTW, your path to A is not the ideal path in this situation, especially since you have serious speed control issues.

3 rail shape, coming off the long rail towards A, rather than heading through A, is much better table management.

-von

Practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, practice, .....................................

Got it??????????????

LOL

Russ.......

 

[poolplayer2093]

Correct. You do stand a chance of scratching in the side, but with a little practice you will learn how to avoid it. If you hit the rail just after the side, your speed is less critical bacause you are on the correct path instead of going across it.

man i think this game so much better than i play it. i actually missed this shot yesterday on the 8 ball (playing 9) hahaha.

 

[Cuebacca]

Maybe I just have deja vu, but I think you have posted this shot about three other times recently! LOL. I'm not talking about the shot on the 1, but rather the shot that you left yourself on the 2 to get to the 3. So, maybe you should also practice this recovery shot, for when it comes up again later.

 

[akaTrigger]

I was complaining to June Hager once that I hated this particular shot and it was so difficult for me. She replied, "to get over that, make it your favorite shot." Now I love back cuts.

 

[CreeDo]

that kind of shot is pretty much common as dirt in 9b and you should fall in love with those kinds of 2 rail leaves because you'll see pros do them a ton. You seem to be one of the rare people who have picked up some nuances of position before being able to make certain cut shots. That's a good thing tho, everyone can learn shotmaking eventually.

In this situation you can follow the tangent line perfectly and follow a very nice path to the 2. But if you hit it hard enough that the cueball doesn't pick up any topspin and follows that line... then the speed will sent it past A possibly. So you just shoot it a hair below center, a bit like doing a draw-drag shot, and it will stick to the line. A bit too much or too little draw won't matter. Sidespin won't be needed.

PS: Why is it you're always posting tables where you can only land on one side of the 2 because the 9 ball is always perfectly blocking the other path lol... usually you can fall on either side of a ball tho of course one side is preferred.

 

[TATE]

It's always difficult to have to "lag" to a spot. On this one you need almost the perfect amount of force. If you watch the top players, they will take this shot 3 rails into the diamond just past the side pocket and let it die. They (and you) can do this again and again precisely much easier than using the exact speed you need on the 2 rail shape. Playing position, like shotmaking, is playing the percentages.

Chris

 

[BRKNRUN]

Interestingly....It was pointed out to me (years ago) that top players will watch this type of stuff and can tell if you are a "mark".....If you play the shot this way they will know that you lack the ability to control the CB and know its just a matter of time before they have you....(and your money).....They don't even care that you can make balls...

As Mike Siegel said....You know your going to make the ball....The hard part of the game is getting shape on the next shot....

I would not suggest setting this up and hitting it 1000 times...I would suggest hitting it 4000 times....

Forget the lay of the 2 ball. Just set up the 1 ball and hit the shot 1000 to the first diamond, 1000 to the second diamond. 1000 to the third diamond...and then even attempt the fourth diamond...(see if you can hold the CB on that side of the table).....Once you can hit those specific spots on the rail.....at will...then you will be able to make slight adjustments from there to get perfect no matter where the 2 ball lays for this "type" of shot.

 

[I rack balls]

Hit it like this, watch the throw on the object ball and let the spin take it around the table..............

Eric.

CueTable Help

 

[Rod]

Hey, it is a testy shot. I don't think anyone loves this shot.

Rod

 

[Hal]

It's not an easy shot because you're coming "across" the angle instead of coming "into" the angle. Get better position on the 1 ball next time!

 

[Fatboy]

you have to fall in love with 2 rail shots in 9B, i'd play that shot 3 rails and come off the bottom like in a post above because the angle you approach for the next shot the speed can be off a little but you get your angle on the next OB right, on the 2 rail option, if you roll long or short its easy to get on the wrong side of the next OB, so depending on traffic you need to be able to shoot it 2 or 3 rails, 3 is the best for this layout, you have to keep shooting it until you can do it either way, there is no short-cut for practice or magic bullet. the 2 rail option has alot smaller margine of error for speed, when you roll (by or past) the line for your next shot its harder than rolling into the line for your next shot.