Wood or carbon?

Longpot7

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i think most of this is manipulated by $$ ... please buy my new expensive thing ... i dont think CF makes enough of difference for the average player to matter much
I think that the CF has its own advantages specialy because of the durability, it doesnt get run down as wood does. Specialy when it comes to dents. Altho its harder to progress with a CF shaft at a average player level.
 

bbb

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I think that the CF has its own advantages specialy because of the durability, it doesnt get run down as wood does. Specialy when it comes to dents. Altho its harder to progress with a CF shaft at a average player level.
could you explain this alittle more please?
 

xX-Wizard-Xx

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I think that the CF has its own advantages specialy because of the durability, it doesnt get run down as wood does. Specialy when it comes to dents. Altho its harder to progress with a CF shaft at a average player level.
my shafts are more than 15 yrs old .... i just sold a black dot to a friend that was bought in the early 2000s ... no dents and straight. Sure carbon fiber is more durable but it isnt organic either ... also CF does ding and dent and chip .... a wood shaft will last a person a life time of paying.
 

Longpot7

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my shafts are more than 15 yrs old .... i just sold a black dot to a friend that was bought in the early 2000s ... no dents and straight. Sure carbon fiber is more durable but it isnt organic either ... also CF does ding and dent and chip .... a wood shaft will last a person a life time of paying.
my first wooden shaft (J.Parker) has suffered many dents...altho it is a very low budget cue. I've talked with a older friend in the pool house the other day, his cue is almost 20years old and not a single dent aswel.
 

BC21

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Thanks to Bert van Manen on FB here is list of the shafts used by the top ten 3-cushion players. Are the days of wood numbered?

Another point is that all but one is using a low deflection (AKA squirt) shaft.

50% on shaft type, wood vs carbon. I'd say the days of non-LD shafts are numbered, but not the days of wood shafts.
 

George the Greek

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I'm an old dog and I doubt I can learn any new tricks lol. I've always played with a maple cue and comfortable with a wood shaft and at my age highly doubt I'll switch. I've watched alot of pool the past while and I don't see anything special that the pros are doing now that can't be done with a wood shaft.
 

RADAR

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my shafts are more than 15 yrs old .... i just sold a black dot to a friend that was bought in the early 2000s ... no dents and straight. Sure carbon fiber is more durable but it isnt organic either ... also CF does ding and dent and chip .... a wood shaft will last a person a life time of paying.
Absolutely right and get 2 more maple shafts for price a carbon still be ahead in the game price wise in terms get another life time out of maple verses 1 carbon.
 

rharm

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No. I'd venture to say that the 5 guys using carbon are being paid handsomely to do so, just like most of the top carbon players in pool.
If sponsorship money wasn't involved, I believe carbon wouldn't be in most top players' hands.
How do you explain all of the non-sponsored players in the 700-750 range that have switched over to carbon? They aren't getting paid to use any shaft, they are choosing to use the shaft they play the best with.
 

FunChamp

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How do you explain all of the non-sponsored players in the 700-750 range that have switched over to carbon? They aren't getting paid to use any shaft, they are choosing to use the shaft they play the best with.
I think some of it is that since it is the latest "best equipment" and if your competitors are using it and you are not that somehow you will be left behind the curve. peer performance pressure.
 

rharm

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I think some of it is that since it is the latest "best equipment" and if your competitors are using it and you are not that somehow you will be left behind the curve. peer performance pressure.
But if they weren't getting better results with the carbon, wouldn't they switch back? I think they are staying with carbon because they shoot better
 

Baby Huey

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If you are buying a COLLECTABLE CUE I guarantee it won't have a CF shaft. I thing Golf Clubs have and are going through the same discussions. My neighbor has 10 sets of the latest editions of golf clubs. He's still a very poor player. But, hope springs eternal.
 

dendweller

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If you are buying a COLLECTABLE CUE I guarantee it won't have a CF shaft. I thing Golf Clubs have and are going through the same discussions. My neighbor has 10 sets of the latest editions of golf clubs. He's still a very poor player. But, hope springs eternal.
You really have to not give a shit about money to buy a new driver the year it's released. Luckily some people do so that others can get in a year for half the new price. I don't see that with Revos.
 

axejunkie

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My guess is in 10 years wood shafts at the semi-pro and pro level will be like dinosaurs. Here in Florida, there is a wide age range of players and I see lots of carbon shafts with the 20 and 30 aged group. Younger players who are new to the game will gravitate toward them like players did to LD shafts in the late 90s and early 2000s.
 

Woodshaft

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How do you explain all of the non-sponsored players in the 700-750 range that have switched over to carbon? They aren't getting paid to use any shaft, they are choosing to use the shaft they play the best with.
Most guys in that range are young and switched at a very young age.
Nothing wrong with cf for a lot of folks, but those used to wood usually stay with wood.
Young (14 yo) rising star Savannah Easton recently quit using her cf Revo and went to wood though.
If you think carbon will make you better, use carbon.
I'm not anti-carbon, but it's not the holy grail that many think it is.
 

nicksaint26

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Most guys in that range are young and switched at a very young age.
Nothing wrong with cf for a lot of folks, but those used to wood usually stay with wood.
Young (14 yo) rising star Savannah Easton recently quit using her cf Revo and went to wood though.
If you think carbon will make you better, use carbon.
I'm not anti-carbon, but it's not the holy grail that many think it is.

Man you really have no clue what you are talking about! A lot of those players are not young like Feijen, Ouschan, Lechner, FSR, Alcaide, Jung Lin Chang. The list goes on and they are all top 50 Fargo.
 

dendweller

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Man you really have no clue what you are talking about! A lot of those players are not young like Feijen, Ouschan, Lechner, FSR, Alcaide, Jung Lin Chang. The list goes on and they are all top 50 Fargo.
think he's referring to people that aren't sponsered
 

dendweller

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Of people in my area that are in the 600 to 700 and some a bit more, there is only a couple carbon fiber shafts. I don't know why, I think they offer some benefits and to be honest, it surprises me that more of the better players aren't on the cf band wagon.
 

Maxx

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Thanks to Bert van Manen on FB here is list of the shafts used by the top ten 3-cushion players. Are the days of wood numbered?



Another point is that all but one is using a low deflection (AKA squirt) shaft.
I don’t think they jump much in 3-cushion, but I started using a carbon fiber jump cue (Cuetec Propel) and don’t think I’ll switch back to wood. Maybe it’s because I’m practicing jumps more because of a new toy, but I’m jumping better.

For playing cues I’ll stick with the old wood shafts that they were made with, 20 years or so ago.
 

Cue Alchemist

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This seems to be an endless debate, this discussion wood vs carbon. Do you guys really think it matters. Deflection is deflection no mater what type of shaft your into. It's just varying amounts.
Just watch dr dave lastest video on it.
If you are prepared to, put the work in. It won't matter. I just think it's a bit crazy, that anyone willing to spend over 400 on a shaft. And not even knowing, if that's going to improve your game.you would be better off, spending that,on some coaching lessons.
when predator first came out 20 plus years ago. Alot of the big players of the time, just stayed with there own traditional shafts. Just to name a few reyes, bustamante, archer, yang, doulton, luat
It was always the younger players that used that brand.
Even watching the last tournament, the men and women using the zen cues. There's Look very traditional It doesn't seem to affect them.
Even through the cue market, is full of the latest LD and Carbon shafts, its refreshing to see, some players don't feel the need to believe the hype..
 
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