sounds like this site should be RAIL BIRDS AGAINST POOL PLAYERS MAKING MONEY . COM
You-tube ripping us off must read
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A music video and a recording of a tournament are two entirely different things. Good luck with having videos removed.
What is also ridiculous is how the original poster tagged players in the Facebook post which in an indirect way says they share this belief when we do not know if they do or not. Stop tagging players in hopes of raising your bogus awareness on the issue at hand which is none at all in reality.
It is not intention of this post to removing any videos. It is what the right thing to do is moving Forward.
So pool players are bogus? And their time, value, and compensation? Is that what you just referenced?
Ah, my bad. *Good luck trying to get people to stop watching YouTube matches.
This is a highlight video, this is not a full re-broadcast full length video, Which is what the original post inferred. Please stop constructing analogies to harm a great idea for pool players, their time, compensation, and art. It's disrespectful.
What does it matter it if is one second, one minute, one hour or one day --- where are you going to draw the line to say what is or is not value?
What is a 10 second clip gets 20 millions views and a 1 hour clip gets 10 views? Who should be paid (in your mind)?
Anyone can hide behind a post or an emoji or an avatar ... Ask any pool player that is breathing and ask them if anyone asked permission to record them, or better yet been paid for being on film.... There are some who compensate the players like big truck and accu-stat but name any other ones? Can you ?
If you use a music track belonging to nirvana for example , it is kicked because the " content" is copywritten.... Pool players have just never flagged the videos .
I dont want anyone to stop putting videos out there im only speaking of full matches ,
If you use a music track belonging to nirvana for example , it is kicked because the " content" is copywritten.... Pool players have just never flagged the videos .
I dont want anyone to stop putting videos out there im only speaking of full matches ,
If you read the post, the intention was not to stop anyone from watching YouTube. In fact, it's great that YouTube to date has hundreds of thousands of them, so that moving forward and with awareness, a new realm of billiard videos and watching online will progress in a manner by which pool players will have a piece of the action. Have a great day!
The problem I have is with your approach, which is to say that players should boycott events/streams unless they get separately paid for the video rights (note, of course, that in at least some cases the video revenue is funding the prize pool). You are trying to tear down the small pieces of the pool industry that are actually working.
If you think there is so much advertising revenue to be made, put together a business plan, invest/borrow some money to pay the players and put out a competing product of professional matches to watch - either on your own website or by creating a YouTube channel of your own. If there is good money to be made, you will make money and the players will make money, and you will create healthy competition for Accu-Stats and CSI and Big Truck and others.
Gideon
IMO the player and producer just like in all other industries should have the compensation
You're right Erica! YouTube should be the teaser/trailer platform... YouTube is great for pool, it's just detrimental financially for the players. Players always getting the last piece of the action. It took many many years to get the players comfortable being recorded. The next 5 should be how to get money in their pockets for their hard work, talent, and art on the pool table. Until then, I'll keep up the good fight!
Nobody is making enough money to pay the pool players anything. Ask the streamers on this site. If the players demand money no big deal. They won't get uploaded...problem solved
Can you name a tournament where funds from any YouTube compensation or private PPV that have directly helped the prize pool of a tournament?
Business plan is already in place, and revenue is already being generated on several private platforms that exist today. We are just making the public aware of how detrimental financially by trading exposure for side revenue hurts the actual player in the video. To throw away the value of the content and the talent/art of a player to get exposure for the player/producer is unethical. As of today there are plenty videos on YouTube that will sustain this model for the next century. So moving forward a solution such as this is viable.
that is exactly my point!
it has been set up
and it is a work in progress
im not asking anyone to boycott anything
but the players should know their rights...
for anyone to make money off someone else and not pay them their due is morally and ethically wrong... big truck and accustat have both compensated players i have seen it first hand they work very hard .
what im saying is that there is a platform directed at pool that they could share their content and all the parties involved would make money
the platform is there
there is no other approach
all im saying is why give the content (talent) to youtube ....
the people making the money forget to compensate the players
not one of them has ever gotten any money for their talent on youtube
when i know it has been distributed to the poster
How much have you paid pool players in 2015? Who got paid?