Fatboy's Spot shot in EVERY HOLE - just to prove a point

td873

td873

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Some of you may have followed the Spot Shot thread. The object is to make a spot shot without the cue ball hitting a rail. Well, I videotaped myself making it 5 times in a row in the same pocket (missing the 6th) and JoeyA called me out that my table didn't play true or that I was somehow cheating. I really think it was uncalled for, but whatever, to each their own. I understand being a skeptic, but my first reaction is not ad hominem attacks on others...

Anyway, I took off work early, came home, grabbed the camera and shot the stupid shot in EVERY HOLE, one after the other, with the camera rolling - no pausing, no multiple tries to get it right and splice them all together. This is 4 continuous spot shots in a row, in 4 corners, keeping the cue ball from the rail every time.

So, if JoeyA is right, and my table has some lean somewhere, it would make the shot impossible from some angle. But, as you can see, whether my table leans toward the kitchen, the bathroom, or the front door, the shot went. And went with a lot of room to spare. The only "close call" was the last shot, which was the same pocket I made 5 in a row yesterday. But if you watch the dots, it doesn't hit the rail.

So Fatboy, the proof is in the pudding, er, video. Yesterday I did 5 in a row in one hole. Today, 4 in a row - one in each corner. Dunno what else to say. Just hit it at pocket speed with natural roll. Seems straight forward, eh?

VIDEO LINK HERE

-td
 
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Good shooting. It is a shot anyone can do (perhaps not as well as you, though). You have proven your point to all reasonable people, beyond all reasonable doubt.
 
One last thing that wasn't clear: I didn't get 4 in a row on the first try. It did take me about 25 minutes to get it right, and about 15 "takes." Heah, it's not THAT easy ;)

I just wanted to clarify that point.

-td
 
EVER HEARD OF DOUBTING THOMAS- That's me.

td873 said:
Some of you may have followed the Spot Shot thread. The object is to make a spot shot without the cue ball hitting a rail. Well, I videotaped myself making it 5 times in a row in the same pocket (missing the 6th) and JoeyA called me out that my table didn't play true or that I was somehow cheating. I really think it was uncalled for, but whatever, to each their own. I understand being a skeptic, but my first reaction is not ad hominem attacks on others...

Anyway, I took off work early, came home, grabbed the camera and shot the stupid shot in EVERY HOLE, one after the other, with the camera rolling - no pausing, no multiple tries to get it right. Just 4 spot shots in a row, in 4 corners, keeping the cue ball from the rail every time.

So, if JoeyA is right, and my table has some lean somewhere, it would make the shot impossible from some angle. But, as you can see, whether my table leans toward the kitchen, the bathroom, or the front door, the shot went. And went with a lot of room to spare. The only "close call" was the last shot, which was the same pocket I made 5 in a row yesterday. But if you watch the dots, it doesn't hit the rail.

So Fatboy, the proof is in the pudding, er, video. Yesterday I did 5 in a row in one hole. Today, 4 in a row - one in each corner. Dunno what else to say. Just hit it at pocket speed with natural roll. Seems straight forward, eh?

VIDEO LINK HERE

-td
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I'm just doubting Thomas. :D

Some things to consider.

1. The cue ball is heavier than the object ball.
2. The fans are a blowing.
3. You got some sticky stuff on the cue balls path after contacting the object ball.
4. The object ball is coated with a hi-gloss wax or other substance.
5. It isn't skill that is making that ball and preventing the cue from hitting the rail.
6. Maybe the heat has the table soaking wet.
7. There's something on the cue ball.
8. I don't know what it is but I'm a doubting Thomas. :p
9. The path of the object ball is sprayed with silicone
10.. Regardless, it is a good video and a lesson to be learned. NEVER BET A MAN THAT HE HAS A FROG IN HIS POCKET.

Thomas, you get to shoot the same shot 10 minutes the same way with DCC balls, tables and shooting it with simple ball roll just like in your video and all you have to do is make it 3 times in a row. We're talking money here man. :)

R - U - N?


JoeyA (thanks for the effort so far)

EDITED TO POINT OUT ONE MORE thing: I never did see a closeup from the side to show PRECISELY where those "foot spots" and head spots were located. That foot spot looked like it had two spots one about and inch and half in front of the other.

Oh yeah, don't be taking off from work early like this anymore to prove anything to anyone, especially me. I hate to see a man lose money from not working that his family could be benefiting from. Besides, you're keeping me from getting to the pool hall. LOL

Good stuff. Keep em coming. (just don't take off of work early for this).
JoeyA
 
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JoeyA said:
1. The cue ball is heavier than the object ball.
2. The fans are a blowing.
3. You got some sticky stuff on the cue balls path after contacting the object ball.
4. The object ball is coated with a hi-gloss wax or other substance.
5. It isn't skill that is making that ball and preventing the cue from hitting the rail.
6. Maybe the heat has the table soaking wet.
7. There's something on the cue ball.
8. I don't know what it is but I'm a doubting Thomas. :p
9. The path of the object ball is sprayed with silicone
10.. Regardless, it is a good video and a lesson to be learned.
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Reductio ad absurdum.

JoeyA said:
EDITED TO POINT OUT ONE MORE thing: I never did see a closeup from the side to show PRECISELY where those "foot spots" and head spots were located. That foot spot looked like it had two spots one about and inch and half in front of the other.
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etc. etc. and for the record, those are hole punch reinforcers to mark drills. Note the one I shoot 5 in a row from. There is one near the head spot, which is in the same location in the later video.

Joey, thanks for the continued support to AZ, but I can't abide your continued attacks on my character. Sorry, but you're going on my block list. And if you are a veteran, thanks for your contribution to the country.

-td
 
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I dont know what or why there is any doubt, Nice shots, Not sure why you would want to hold the cue ball off the rail on a spot shot, but If someone wants to donate money for this shot, TAKE IT..... lol...



SPINDOKTOR
 
td873 said:
Reductio ad absurdum.


etc. etc. and for the record, those are hole punch reinforcers to mark drills. Note the one I shoot 5 in a row from. There is one near the head spot, which is in the same location in the later video.

Joey, thanks for the continued support to AZ, but I can't abide your continued attacks on my character. Sorry, but you're going on my block list. And if you are a veteran, thanks for your contribution to the country.

-td
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Thomas, I can't believe you are insulted or view my ribbing as attacks on your character. That is truly hard to believe.

My replies to your posts are pock-marked with lots of smiley faces.

And people like to say that I should smile more. Sheesh.

Oh, and yes I am and thanks. No hard feelings. (but I must be getting close) :D :D :D

Semper Fi,
JoeyA
 
the first shot in this video the ball goes in to the thin side of the pocket it was almost over cut thus not slowing down the CB as much and it still went in and the rock wasnt near the rail, I thought the plan is to hit it fat as possible :confused: . It worked and its a very impressive video, its a cool shot, i'm gonna play with it and report back what I come up with, i dont think i'll make 4 in a row, i just want 2 so it isnt a mistake on the first one.:)
 
Fatboy said:
the first shot in this video the ball goes in to the thin side of the pocket it was almost over cut thus not slowing down the CB as much and it still went in and the rock wasnt near the rail, I thought the plan is to hit it fat as possible :confused: . It worked and its a very impressive video, its a cool shot, i'm gonna play with it and report back what I come up with, i dont think i'll make 4 in a row, i just want 2 so it isnt a mistake on the first one.:)
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If you make it two times in a row without curving, masseing or draw dragging it, I'm getting on a plane. :D :D
JoeyA
 
joey. it can be done. when i first heard about efren doing it upteen times , i thought i'd try. the natural inclination is to think you have to do something clever with the cb, like masse or super english.....then sjm came along and just friggin' rolled the ob in. so when i tried it that way, i did it......simonis.

all you have to do is roll it in. the cb loses more of it's speed than the speed transfered to the ob. just pay attention to how fast the ob is rolling in, and lighten up accordingly.
 
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Fatboy said:
the first shot in this video the ball goes in to the thin side of the pocket it was almost over cut thus not slowing down the CB as much and it still went in and the rock wasnt near the rail, I thought the plan is to hit it fat as possible :confused: . It worked and its a very impressive video, its a cool shot, i'm gonna play with it and report back what I come up with, i dont think i'll make 4 in a row, i just want 2 so it isnt a mistake on the first one.:)
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Yeah, that was a cool one. I can't remember ever having one like that work before. As the video shows, the real key is pocket speed. And it's hard to cut the ball just right from that distance - but it is possible!

When get it figured out, post up a report! Good luck!

-td
 
Room

Can you give me the dimensions of the room? I am looking for a house and want a similarly situated room
 
gforces1911 said:
Can you give me the dimensions of the room? I am looking for a house and want a similarly situated room
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The room is a loft, so it ins't the recommended size. It's actually only 18'10" X 13'6". But the table is pushed a little closer to the rails, so it fits quite nicely. It's not perfect, but it works for about 95% of the shots. And I like the rest of the house. When I remodel, I'll get the dimensions right. ;)

-td
 
If it's any help to the feelings department; I thought, when I read Joey's initial response to your first video, that he was kidding.
 
TD, Great touch.. I find that to be a very difficult shot to master.

Just curious, what type of cloth do you have on the table?? Just curious.

Peace, JBK
 
I just rolled it in with Simonis 760 and Aramith super pro balls, matched set, leaving 8" clearance from the rail.

If anybody wants to try this shot and make it easier on themselves, line up like you would any spotshot, take some practice strokes, but on the final backstroke only take the tip back an inch or two. This will give you a positive but easy to control slow roll stroke.

Chris
 
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