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Post Shafts - is laminated better? - 03-02-2013, 05:20 AM

What is the main difference?


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Opinion - 03-02-2013, 06:21 AM

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What is the main difference?
This is just my opinion.I think the main advantage is they are more consistent.If something happened to your laminated shaft as compared to a Maple shaft it is easier to replace the laminated one.Jim Buss (I think ) wrote an article years ago, saying that the more you play with a maple shaft the more the fibers in the wood break down .This happens very gradually and you are also adjusting to that hit and feel.If this shaft needs to be replaced , even using an exact shaft from the same cue maker that whole process needs to start all over again. The period of adjust depends on the wood and how much you are playing etc.With a laminated it is almost like the McDonald's busn. Approach, you can eat ones of their burgers in NY or Calf. And they are the same.Something happens to your laminated shaft just get a new one, the adjustment period is minimal.
  
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03-02-2013, 07:31 AM

Necessity, being the mother of invention, was the reason for the development of the laminated shaft, and the necessity, of course, was strength.
To build a shaft that has material removed from the tip end to reduce mass, and a shaft with sometimes as much as a fifteen inch pro taper, it had to be strong enough to resist warping over the course of it's life.
In my opinion the Predator, and OB, has done this, and I'm sure there are others.


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03-02-2013, 07:53 AM

If a maple shaft is fabricated from the outside of the log, it will have lateral rings like plywood. The deflection characteristics are different if one hits in grain vs. out of grain. the red and black dot parallel laminated shafts proffered this.

The radial laminated shafts like Predator, OB and Tiger and others are uniform in their hit 360 degrees around.


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03-02-2013, 07:57 AM

I play with a 40 year old maple shaft. Still hits better than anything else I've tried, and I've tried a lot.
  
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03-02-2013, 08:12 AM

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Necessity, being the mother of invention, was the reason for the development of the laminated shaft, and the necessity, of course, was strength.
To build a shaft that has material removed from the tip end to reduce mass, and a shaft with sometimes as much as a fifteen inch pro taper, it had to be strong enough to resist warping over the course of it's life.
In my opinion the Predator, and OB, has done this, and I'm sure there are others.
I can't disagree with that, I feel it's all very true. But, on the other hand, I have never paid more than 35 bucks for a shaft, if that. So, should it warp, I'll get another. In my wildest dreams, I couldn't see myself paying 200+ dollars for 3 oz of wood.

I've been using the current one for 4 years, it has an 18 to 20 inch 12.5 pro taper that I did on my trusty Dewalt drill and it hasn't warped yet.
  
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03-02-2013, 12:05 PM

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03-05-2013, 04:16 PM

Maple all the way for me. The good cue makers know not to rush to make a high quality maple shaft. I think they stand the test of time if they're made right and you take care of them. JMO
  
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03-05-2013, 04:21 PM

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What is the main difference?
I don't understand the question or some of the answers.

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03-05-2013, 04:36 PM

If less deflection is the standard the Yes
There is a reason why so many play with one


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03-05-2013, 04:51 PM

Is plywood "better" than straight-grain, hard-rock, old-growth maple? Depends on what you're using it for.
  
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03-05-2013, 05:02 PM

The laminated predator shafts I have owned all had one thing in common. They were soft and very susceptible to dings. I got tired of it and got rid of them. I guess this is the by product of being made from scrap wood that is dried out too fast. I'll take solid maple any day. The good ones I have seem never to warp.

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03-05-2013, 05:27 PM

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Is plywood "better" than straight-grain, hard-rock, old-growth maple? Depends on what you're using it for.
Micro-lam would be a better comparison and it would be better for anything that was needed for strength rock hard maple would be better for trim

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03-05-2013, 08:53 PM

A laminated shaft won't warp. You can leave it in your car. I tried one but couldn't figure it out.
  
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03-06-2013, 05:21 AM

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