Tasks are one thing, playing pool is another animal altogether.
PAT 1 Standard Shot 1 - Basement Training Video
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ElCorazonFrio
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Task is simply a term for any activity. The study was on a sport of some sort.
How do you even know what perfection is until you've tried different things?
As for the internal clock, we are agreeing--I'm just stating that there is actual benefit to knowing how long it takes to do something. I learned a long time ago that people perceive time incorrectly.
Take, for instance, competitive foosball (which I used to play). On the 3-bar (the shooting rod), the player gets to keep the ball on that rod for up to 15sec (no warnings, if time is exceeded the play is stopped and the ball gets turned over). So, 15sec...not much time at all, right? Would you play in a pool tourney with a 15sec shot clock (I would, it plays to my strength)? But in foosball, most players shoot the ball at about 3-6sec.. When asked, they believe they were waiting ten seconds or more.
Perception of time is a difficult thing. Your internal clock changes, I guarantee, depending on the situation.
Neil, I was doing the drill last night and if the cue ball and object ball are not dead straight, massive a hair of deviation, I noticed that a good hit will just send the cue ball off to the side a half revolution, with no side spin. I've noticed I do get feedback on those type of shots, some came up in the video.
Also on a 4 1/4" pocket, there really isn't room for error, if I align the balls dead straight or just place them slightly off, a slight off shot will not pocket the ball. My target on the object ball still has to be exact and the stroke straight and true.
Even with a 4 1/4" pocket, you have a two inch margin of error. The reason this is so important, is that sometimes you need to shoot a combo with a little space between the balls, or have to shoot a ball between two balls or half the pocket is blocked. During those times, you want to have the confidence that you can shoot dead straight reliably.
When you don't have that confidence, you end up passing on makeable shots and playing safe. Playing safe will turn over the table to your opponent 100% of the time. Your ultimate goal should be to turn over the table 0% of the time, or as close to zero as you can train yourself.
An easy way to set them up dead straight is to put your tip right behind the ob pointed to the center of the pocket (center between the two points). Then just lift the butt a little, and put the cb centered under your cue.
Now, if you are reliably stopping the cb with only a half ball movement, you are doing pretty good on it. Just remember, there is always room for improvement!
Absolutely agree! That's the best part of pool - the obsessive compulsive inside has a playground. If the shot is done correctly, now it's an opportunity to see how many times it can be done correctly in a row. Never satisfied. Always looking for the ever elusive perfect repeatable stroke.
As you said, always room for improvement.
Someone else posted a link to this video, but the first part showcases what I was referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCPlv0mf3p0&t=7m43s
That was pure genius, Neil.
Words of wisdom.
Thank you very much for introducing me to that video.
What does this mean?
If you are going to use Kinnister as an example, I have to mention on his Shot Number One he emphatically advocates SHOOTING THROUGH THE CUEBALL .
https://youtu.be/Gcg0pDeVc7I?t=64
You can see his tip go straight through the cueball. It doesn't dip.
His grip hand does not finish high. It finishes level with the stroke.
https://youtu.be/Gcg0pDeVc7I?t=387
His shot #1.
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Joey, what he calls shooting through the cb is what we also call finishing the stroke. He is an elbow dropper. Nothing wrong with that if it works for you. However, you can also easily see how much Bert has to steer his cue because he does drop his elbow. Elbow dropping or not dropping is a personal choice. One is harder to do than the other.
We focus on two different areas of the game.
1. Behind the cue ball. (That's us)
2. In front of the cue ball. (That's results)
When working on your body (cue) movements a cue ball could interfere
with our focus. Use a object ball as your strike.
randyg
Yup.
Bought this vhs tape when it first came out as shown in shot #1
I still do these drills everyday. Its a gold mine for the serious student.
John
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CK,
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this about your body alignment on the shot line. This real clear by your right elbow not finishing on the shot line. Check out your video, you'll see what I mean.
Your right shoulder, and elbow are not naturally on the shot line. This is due to your not leading (rotating) into the shot line with your left shoulder which would make you rotate your right shoulder onto to the shot line.
Your bridge, chin (or strongest eye), right shoulder, elbow and grip hand should all be naturally on the shot line. Not forced onto the shot line. Once you feel you are lined up just let the cue fall from a back swing (without guiding it) down onto the cue ball. If its not going straight to the QB then you need more work.
Sorry instructors, waited long enough and had to post the obvious.
If you have a video recording device set it up to record your setup (frontal view). Then adjust from there.
John
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this about your body alignment on the shot line. This real clear by your right elbow not finishing on the shot line. Check out your video, you'll see what I mean.
Your right shoulder, and elbow are not naturally on the shot line. This is due to your not leading (rotating) into the shot line with your left shoulder which would make you rotate your right shoulder onto to the shot line.
Your bridge, chin (or strongest eye), right shoulder, elbow and grip hand should all be naturally on the shot line. Not forced onto the shot line. Once you feel you are lined up just let the cue fall from a back swing (without guiding it) down onto the cue ball. If its not going straight to the QB then you need more work.
Sorry instructors, waited long enough and had to post the obvious.
If you have a video recording device set it up to record your setup (frontal view). Then adjust from there.
John
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I asked him if he had a question. He wrote that he posted the video mainly as a reference for other threads. It seemed to me he wasn't asking for an analysis but rather just sharing what he was doing.
Just speaking for myself --- After reading his response, I left the thread and didn't analyze anything, and that's why you didn't see any comments from me.
Hello John - I appreciate your taking the time to view the video and your feedback. Yes, I have to dig out a tripod and video camera and get a new round of shots, stationary and directly front on.
There's always room for improvement.
Cool.
I do the same thing at my house. Set up the tripod snap in the iphone and start recording. If I dont like what I'm seeing I make an adjustment and record again. I keep doing this until I'm happy with what I'm seeing. Then repeat the same stance and alignment many hundreds of times. Soon it becomes automatic.
Thanks for sharing your video. Hang in there and have fun.
John
PAT Level 2 Standard Shot #2
Recorded this video after a long training session around 2 A.m. to focus on fundamentals.
This is from the WPA playing ability test - PAT Level 2
Standard Shot #2
Objective: using high inside English, bring the ball three rails to position in same-side lower corner. Alternate sides after each successful attempt.
Equipment: gold crown 2 sub rails modified to 4 1/4" pockets
(Table Difficult Factor of 1.08 registered on Dr. Dave's thread http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=324408 )
with cloth well broken in so the shot has to be hit pure or it's not falling.
This isn't the compete set, I was near 50% success rate for this shot and I went 13 for 28 during the set. I believe I would be above 60% if playing on a standard table with a TDF of 1.0
Video Link:
https://youtu.be/NzmWf8krh-g
Thanks for watching.
Recorded this video after a long training session around 2 A.m. to focus on fundamentals.
This is from the WPA playing ability test - PAT Level 2
Standard Shot #2
Objective: using high inside English, bring the ball three rails to position in same-side lower corner. Alternate sides after each successful attempt.
Equipment: gold crown 2 sub rails modified to 4 1/4" pockets
(Table Difficult Factor of 1.08 registered on Dr. Dave's thread http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=324408 )
with cloth well broken in so the shot has to be hit pure or it's not falling.
This isn't the compete set, I was near 50% success rate for this shot and I went 13 for 28 during the set. I believe I would be above 60% if playing on a standard table with a TDF of 1.0
Video Link:
https://youtu.be/NzmWf8krh-g
Thanks for watching.