Too bad great grampa.
Go search your coconut.
Thing is, i don't need to search anything, i don't need to second guess....my work...LMAO
Too bad great grampa.
Go search your coconut.
And there you have it Denwhit!
Any other questions about why tables play different or does that take care of it?
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
JC
this post referenced this link from joey in caliThe OB point of contact is the rail nose in Front of the diamond, not aimed At the diamond.
First rail and third rail contact points also equal 5. Corner to diamond 3 goes to diamond 2.
What denwhit said about his table rebounding 4 1/2 table lengths is okay according to BCA.
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this post referenced this link from joey in cali
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/bca-pool.com/resource/resmgr/imported/BCAEquipmentSpecifications_2008.pdf
which has a diagram on how the rails should play
View attachment 456870
and it shows the billiard table tracts of 5 to 3 to 2 to the corner
the 2 tract on a billiard table is to the corner
even if aiming at diammond 3 it would equal about 2 and 3/4 or alittle closer to 3
i have never played on a 9 foot table of any brand that had cloth that had been played on where you to aim closer to diamond 2 or diamond 2 1/4
to get to the corner
ie the tract to the corner on almost every table i have played on (not diamonds) closer to the 3 tract was to the corner
when i test a table i start from the corner and aim at diamond 2 and adjust from there
is my experience atypical
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i dont mean this post to side track the thread since i am asking in a different way why do pool tables play different
this post referenced this link from joey in cali
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/bca-pool.com/resource/resmgr/imported/BCAEquipmentSpecifications_2008.pdf
which has a diagram on how the rails should play
View attachment 456870
and it shows the billiard table tracts of 5 to 3 to 2 to the corner
the 2 tract on a billiard table is to the corner
even if aiming at diammond 3 it would equal about 2 and 3/4 or alittle closer to 3
i have never played on a 9 foot table of any brand that had cloth that had been played on where you to aim closer to diamond 2 or diamond 2 1/4
to get to the corner
ie the tract to the corner on almost every table i have played on (not diamonds) closer to the 3 tract was to the corner
when i test a table i start from the corner and aim at diamond 2 and adjust from there
is my experience atypical
???
i dont mean this post to side track the thread since i am asking in a different way why do pool tables play different
thinner cloth, bigger balls, higher density cushions, and heated slates are in use. Humidity, cloth, balls, cushions, level of table....ALL play a role in how tables play different from each other, even rail construction, thickness of slate, how many bolts a rail has effects the outcome of the banks.
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RKCWhat Joey fails to understand as well as everyone else is that banking diagram is for a billiards table where banking is critical in which thinner cloth, bigger balls, higher density cushions, and heated slates are in use. Humidity, cloth, balls, cushions, level of table....ALL play a role in how tables play different from each other, even rail construction, thickness of slate, how many bolts a rail has effects the outcome of the banks. That diagram is a guide, not the bible of how a POOL table is suppose to play. Even how .any hours of play on the cloth changes everything about how a pool table plays, we don't even want to get into how clean the table is. Wake up people, even billiards tables don't play as perfect as that diagram indicates they should. ONE rail banks is the true test of how a POOL table banks. Ask yourselves how many times do you ba k a ball on a pool table more than ONE RAIL?
. ONE rail banks is the true test of how a POOL table banks. Ask yourselves hw many times do you ba k a ball on a pool table more than ONE RAIL?
Here's Ralph Eckert teaching one-railer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4niYd9ccsQw
That's how I test tables at my local hall before a match.
And the tables there vary table table.
They were all redone with Artemis K66 profile ( not K55 ). And some tables actually bank very very well.
Some that I wish how my table banks.
Some bank short but not overly short.
Playing 9-ball or 10-ball does not involve banking or kicking, for that matter, 3 rails that often.
But, playing 3-rail position is done very often.
Not arguing, just saying.
And not even going to expound on Accufast cushion having no control fabric on top. And not going to argue cushions put english on balls under circumstances.
And this is BCA's own specs/regulations for pool table and equipment.
https://c.ymcdn.com/sites/bca-pool.com/resource/resmgr/imported/BCAEquipmentSpecifications_2008.pdf
Maybe they need some updating.
Joey~Still not buying Olhausen~
Err, I never said that.Joey, why are younso hung up on K66 cushions being the best cushions there are, as you always seem to make it a point " the tables banked real good...AND THEY HAVE K66 CUSHIONS ON THEM! Most of all the requests to rebuild GCs that come to me from California have K66 cushions on the rails and THATS WHY THEY WANT THEM REBUILT.....THEY DON'T LIKE HOW THEY PLAY!!!
Okay, how to set up a one rail shot to test whether a table is playing long or short? I think it involves setting up frozen balls so there is not any chance of English involved? Just guessing but frozen balls aimed from the side pocked diamond at the point of the cushion in front of the middle diamond on the opposing rail?
Pretty simple to determine really.
If I miss a one rail shot the table banks short or long depending on how I missed.
See how it works? It's the damned table!
If all tables played the same then what would us nits say?:smile:
JC
That's how I test tables at my local hall before a match. And the tables there vary table table. They were all redone with Artemis K66 profile ( not K55 ). And some tables actually bank very very well.
Naaaaa....you didn't say that, the OTHER you must have been typing, there's only ONE person i know of that installs Artemis K66 profile cushions on pool tables, and Gold Crowns at that, which are the wrong cushions and i don't care what anyone says.
That! is the answer I was looking for. I was just curious why my table plays so much different than my instructor's. I don't think there is anything wrong with either table.... just different.
Great. That settles that.Went down to play and size up a 9' Diamond table in a local bar. It has Artimus cushions, 860HR tournament blue cloth. It banks EXACTLY like mine in that the standard three rail out of a corner pocket, aiming at the diamond 6 (two diamonds past side pocket), with just a 1/2 tip running English, it goes in the heart of the adjacent corner pocket. I was able to get a 5 a few times slamming it as hard as I could. So now, I think my friend's Olhausen plays long and mine plays normal. Happy camper in Salem:smile: