for begginer in pool/billiards
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Fundamentals first and foremost. It includes a variety of aspects. Stance, alignment, grip, bridge, sighting, cueing action. These, and in no particular order are by far the most important things a beginner should learn. Its interesting you posted in the aiming forum. I can only assume you are of the belief finding an aiming system is the first thing you should look for. That couldn't be further from the truth. As anyone knows on here, an aiming system is void if the player doesn't have the fundamental skills to accompany it.
Bit of advice if you wish to take it...
If I was in your shoes I would firstly work on my bridge, stance and alignment. First without hitting any balls, just repeating getting down into position and making sure all the crucial parts are aligned, the stance is wobble-free and sturdy and the bridge is again, solid and sturdy.
Next would be sighting. The ability to get your eyes in the correct position for shots both whilst standing, and whilst down. This gives you the ability to find where centre cue ball is, and view straight in shots as straight in.
Next would be the grip. By this point you will have developed a natural grip that allows you to generate spin whilst cueing accurately. Players should go with their natural grip. Everyone's hands are different, and the body is smart and will progressively develop a grip that allows you to achieve the above.
After this, if your game hits a plateau, then I'd look into an aiming method. Plenty out there, some good, some not so good. It may take you no time to find one that suits you or it may take time, and lots of money before you find it.
Sighting
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=378397
Grip and cue action
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=378140
Stance and alignment
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=377747
Head position
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=372774
Consistency, and how to improve it
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=377341
Bit of advice if you wish to take it...
If I was in your shoes I would firstly work on my bridge, stance and alignment. First without hitting any balls, just repeating getting down into position and making sure all the crucial parts are aligned, the stance is wobble-free and sturdy and the bridge is again, solid and sturdy.
Next would be sighting. The ability to get your eyes in the correct position for shots both whilst standing, and whilst down. This gives you the ability to find where centre cue ball is, and view straight in shots as straight in.
Next would be the grip. By this point you will have developed a natural grip that allows you to generate spin whilst cueing accurately. Players should go with their natural grip. Everyone's hands are different, and the body is smart and will progressively develop a grip that allows you to achieve the above.
After this, if your game hits a plateau, then I'd look into an aiming method. Plenty out there, some good, some not so good. It may take you no time to find one that suits you or it may take time, and lots of money before you find it.
Sighting
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=378397
Grip and cue action
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=378140
Stance and alignment
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=377747
Head position
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=372774
Consistency, and how to improve it
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=377341
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thank to the tips,now im fucosing hn may fundamentals stroking straight alignment sighting the aiming is my next exercise,i do a drill hitting a cueball back to my cuetip to see if i hit it center cueball,aiming system is useless when your stroke is bad...thats my opinin
Give this a listen
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/blog/dr-cue-lesson-7-aiming-cue-ball-travel-line/
You could try the Ghost Ball Aim trainer that is shown.
Or this, aiming arrow
http://books.google.com/books?id=dK...nepage&q=babe cranfields aiming arrow&f=false
Which is a good book also.
The aiming arrow is to be left on the table during the shot.
http://www.mcdermottcue.com/blog/dr-cue-lesson-7-aiming-cue-ball-travel-line/
You could try the Ghost Ball Aim trainer that is shown.
Or this, aiming arrow
http://books.google.com/books?id=dK...nepage&q=babe cranfields aiming arrow&f=false
Which is a good book also.
The aiming arrow is to be left on the table during the shot.
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thanks for comments,i try to change my stance like snooker stance its good bcause i can shoot straight hitting cueball and back to my cuetip but this stance after a five games my back ang hips ache/pain but with my previous stance like pinoy stance pool/billiard player stance i cant hit the cueball straight back to my cuetip its always going left side im a right eye dominant ang right handed,..the way i make shot the cue touch my outer chest,under of my chin and dominant eye,where the right part of chest touch the cue,is it in the outer under armpit,inner between both chess or in the middle part the nipples..any advice please thanks
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Do not do the cue ball up and down table trying to contact the cue tip on return. Its bad, and can be quite misleading.
Instead set up a straight in, ob centre table into a corner. Pot the ob and have the CB follow it into the pocket. Shoot at all speeds. Also try stop shots on straight ins. The aim is to get the CB to stop dead with no side spin. Again, shoot draw and get the CB to come straight back to the tip. If you can do any of these 9 out of 10 times you have a good stroke. Do them 30 out of 30 and you should be writing your name in the hall of fame to save time in the future
If you are hitting with left hand side, but look as though you are hitting centre, look back at my sighting link, and try the test with the tape. Its probably a sighting issue.
Instead set up a straight in, ob centre table into a corner. Pot the ob and have the CB follow it into the pocket. Shoot at all speeds. Also try stop shots on straight ins. The aim is to get the CB to stop dead with no side spin. Again, shoot draw and get the CB to come straight back to the tip. If you can do any of these 9 out of 10 times you have a good stroke. Do them 30 out of 30 and you should be writing your name in the hall of fame to save time in the future
If you are hitting with left hand side, but look as though you are hitting centre, look back at my sighting link, and try the test with the tape. Its probably a sighting issue.
thank you so much sir pidge for great idea,ill try what you say..i can imagine youre a pro or top players i think you play this game a consistent playerDo not do the cue ball up and down table trying to contact the cue tip on return. Its bad, and can be quite misleading.
Instead set up a straight in, ob centre table into a corner. Pot the ob and have the CB follow it into the pocket. Shoot at all speeds. Also try stop shots on straight ins. The aim is to get the CB to stop dead with no side spin. Again, shoot draw and get the CB to come straight back to the tip. If you can do any of these 9 out of 10 times you have a good stroke. Do them 30 out of 30 and you should be writing your name in the hall of fame to save time in the future
If you are hitting with left hand side, but look as though you are hitting centre, look back at my sighting link, and try the test with the tape. Its probably a sighting issue.
Hajidub
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I've noticed with beginners also, especially my low ranking folks on my team, they tend to watch 2-3 hours of youtube pointer video's then attempt to implement them all in one practice session. I'd recommend making subtle changes during each practice session.
BTW, my AZ cherry's been busted!
BTW, my AZ cherry's been busted!
PM me your address and I'll send you 3 FREE videos
PM me your address and I'll send you 3 FREE videos covering everything you'll need to become a good player. (you can research them at www.cjwiley.com) To become a "great" player requires volume 4
...just kiddin, hope you have the best of luck in whatever method you choose. Trust your "gut instincts," and do what's right for you and your own personal development.
PM me your address and I'll send you 3 FREE videos covering everything you'll need to become a good player. (you can research them at www.cjwiley.com) To become a "great" player requires volume 4
...just kiddin, hope you have the best of luck in whatever method you choose. Trust your "gut instincts," and do what's right for you and your own personal development. 
PM me your address and I'll send you 3 FREE videos covering everything you'll need to become a good player. (you can research them at www.cjwiley.com) To become a "great" player requires volume 4
Very generous CJ.
I still appreciate the DVD that you sent me, and its overdue that I view it again.
Westlife, send CJ your info straight away. There are lots of great resources out there, and you can't really go wrong. CJ is offering you great material that will get you started in the right direction.
Good luck! Keep us posted with how you're doing
1. Very good advice from Pidge.
2. Ignore duckie if you have any hopes of ever being a good pool player.
3. Buy Mark Wilson's book. It is far and away the best pool instructional material on the planet.
4. Take some lessons from a qualified instructor.
5. Practice.
Pool is an incredibly beautiful game. Have fun and good luck.
2. Ignore duckie if you have any hopes of ever being a good pool player.
3. Buy Mark Wilson's book. It is far and away the best pool instructional material on the planet.
4. Take some lessons from a qualified instructor.
5. Practice.
Pool is an incredibly beautiful game. Have fun and good luck.
PM me your address and I'll send you 3 FREE videos covering everything you'll need to become a good player. (you can research them at www.cjwiley.com) To become a "great" player requires volume 4
Mr Wiley , there's one thing that I'm certain about you, you're a pretty good guy.
BTW, you need to an instructional video covering the breaks on all games, I think it would do well.
Anthony
That's right, you will not be a good player but a great player.
Why, cause I keep it simple. No having to buy DVD sets and then having to instructions on what is on the DVDs in order to understand what is on the DVD.
No non sense about pivoting, which those that pivot can not agree on.
No having to estimate the angle of a shot.
No BS about "the system gives you the perceptions" when it is repetitive playing that does it.
So, ya if you want to be just a good player, don't listen to me, but if you want to be a great player, by methodology is the best.
Seems it's just too hard for some to accept that there is a better way.
Why, cause I keep it simple. No having to buy DVD sets and then having to instructions on what is on the DVDs in order to understand what is on the DVD.
No non sense about pivoting, which those that pivot can not agree on.
No having to estimate the angle of a shot.
No BS about "the system gives you the perceptions" when it is repetitive playing that does it.
So, ya if you want to be just a good player, don't listen to me, but if you want to be a great player, by methodology is the best.
Seems it's just too hard for some to accept that there is a better way.
Get one and practice with it for a while.
Just how good are you Greg?
Not looking to bet as I know you'll decline. Not even asking for you to post a video as I know you'll decline that as well.
But seriously...just how good have your methods made you?
What's your high run in 14.1?
How many [consecutive] racks have you B&R in 8 ball? 9 or 10 ball?
What's your score in Dr. Dave's BU Exam?
How about my 15 Ball Ghost Drill?
If the methods you have been touting for years are so great, then prove it.
Ron Swanson
Banned
You know his 'methods' have produced every single great player ever, right?
How he does at it is not relevant. Proof does not lie with duckie. You use the snooker stance yet your chances of making a maximum are about the same as mine.
PM me your address and I'll send you 3 FREE videos covering everything you'll need to become a good player. (you can research them at www.cjwiley.com) To become a "great" player requires volume 4
Westlife.........
Go grab CJ's offer!... now...
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