14.1 Stats -- 2017 World Tournament, Round-Robin Matches, Oct. 2017

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Here are some stats from matches in the round-robin portion (group stage) of the 2017 World 14.1 Tournament played October 2-4 at Steinway Billiards in Queens, NY. These were 15 of the 17 matches streamed by AzBtv, and they represented 13.4% of the total of 112 round-robin matches that were scheduled for the event.

The conditions for this event include:
- 9-foot table with 4½" corner pockets and blue Andy Cloth;
- Aramith balls;
- triangle rack;
- fouls on all balls;
- opponent racks in some matches, rack your own in some matches;
- lag for opening break.

For similar results from the double- and single-elimination portions of this event, see this thread: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=461381

Attempted Scoring Innings means the player's total number of innings for the game minus the number of innings that he played only a safety or an intentional foul (no attempt to score a point).

PPI is Points per Inning based on the total number of innings in the game for that player. [Note: I am calling this measure Points per Inning rather than Balls per Inning to be a bit more precise in the definition, since the number of points a player is credited with in a game can be quite different from the number of balls he pocketed.]

PPASI is Points per Attempted Scoring Inning, i.e., points per inning based on the number of Attempted Scoring Innings in the game for that player.

Matches numbered 1-7 here were played on Monday, Oct. 2; Matches 8-12 on Tuesday, Oct.. 3 (I missed 2 streamed matches this day); and Matches 13-15 on Wednesday, Oct. 4.

All information is given first for the match winner and then for the match loser (separated by a comma). The numbers in parentheses in Matches #13 and #14 and #17 result from my not seeing a few shots while my stream was frozen. For calculations, I used the number not in parentheses.

Match #1 -- Lee Vann Corteza defeated John Schott 100 - 0
High Run: 100 & out, 0
Total Innings: 1, 1
PPI (Points per Inning): 100, 0
Attempted Scoring Innings: 1, 0
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 100, -
Missed Shots: 0, 0
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: unknown (est. 45 min.)
Points per Minute: est. 2.2

Match #2 -- Del Sim d. Danny Harriman 100 - 54
High Run: 47 & out, 42
Total Innings: 16, 15
PPI (Points per Inning): 6.3, 3.6
Attempted Scoring Innings: 8, 7
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 12.5, 7.7
Missed Shots: 3, 4
Unintentional Fouls: 1, 4
Match Length: 94 min.
Points per Minute: 1.6

Match #3 -- John Schmidt d. Danny Barouty 100 - 6
High Run: 57, 5
Total Innings: 4, 3
PPI (Points per Inning): 25.0, 2.0
Attempted Scoring Innings: 3, 3
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 33.3, 2.0
Missed Shots: 2, 3
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 44 min.
Points per Minute: 2.4

Match #4 -- Darren Appleton d. Ed Culhane 100 - 12
High Run: 38, 7
Total Innings: 9, 9
PPI (Points per Inning): 11.1, 1.3
Attempted Scoring Innings: 6, 5
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 16.7, 2.4
Missed Shots: 4, 4
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 54 min.
Points per Minute: 2.1

Match #5 -- Thorsten Hohmann d. Rhys Chen 100 - 75
High Run: 48 & out, 30
Total Innings: 9, 8
PPI (Points per Inning): 11.1, 9.4
Attempted Scoring Innings: 5, 4
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 20.0, 18.8
Missed Shots: 3, 2
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 1
Match Length: 88 min.
Points per Minute: 2.0

Match #6 -- Mika Immonen d. Danny Harriman 100 - 34
High Run: 45, 18
Total Innings: 8, 8
PPI (Points per Inning): 12.5, 4.3
Attempted Scoring Innings: 5, 5
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 20.0, 6.8
Missed Shots: 4, 4
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 68 min.
Points per Minute: 2.0

Match #7 -- Jorge Rodriguez d. Thorsten Hohmann 100 - 86
High Run: 97, 41
Total Innings: 4, 4
PPI (Points per Inning): 25.0, 21.5
Attempted Scoring Innings: 4, 3
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 25.0, 28.7
Missed Shots: 3, 3
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 91 min.
Points per Minute: 2.0

Match #8 -- Hunter Lombardo d. Turkalainen 100 - 45
High Run: 33 & out, 22
Total Innings: 10, 9
PPI (Points per Inning): 10.0, 5.0
Attempted Scoring Innings: 6, 7
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 16.7, 6.4
Missed Shots: 5, 5
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 83 min.
Points per Minute: 1.7

Match #9 -- Mika Immonen d. Mark Kendall 100 - 20
High Run: 65, 9
Total Innings: 17, 17
PPI (Points per Inning): 5.9, 1.2
Attempted Scoring Innings: 7, 7
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 14.3, 2.9
Missed Shots: 5, 2
Unintentional Fouls: 1, 1
Match Length: 68 min.
Points per Minute: 1.8

Match #10 -- Danny Harriman d. Pascal Dufresne 100 - 46
High Run: 59, 30
Total Innings: 8, 8 (possibly 9 each)
PPI (Points per Inning): 12.5, 5.8
Attempted Scoring Innings: 5, 4
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 20.0, 11.5
Missed Shots: 2, 4
Unintentional Fouls: 1, 0
Match Length: 97 min.
Points per Minute: 1.5

Match #11 -- Thorsten Hohmann d. Lee Vann Corteza 100 - 45
High Run: 83 & out, 32
Total Innings: 3, 2
PPI (Points per Inning): 33.3, 22.5
Attempted Scoring Innings: 2, 2
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 50.0, 22.5
Missed Shots: 1, 1
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 1
Match Length: 62 min.
Points per Minute: 2.3

Match #12 -- Darren Appleton d. Tony Robles 100 - 62
High Run: 28, 28
Total Innings: 8, 7
PPI (Points per Inning): 12.5, 8.9
Attempted Scoring Innings: 5, 7
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 20.0, 8.9
Missed Shots: 4, 6
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 89 min.
Points per Minute: 1.8

Match #13 -- Mika Immonen d. Bob Madenjian 100 - 90
High Run: 42, 29
Total Innings: 23, 22
PPI (Points per Inning): 4.3, 4.1
Attempted Scoring Innings: 8, 8
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 12.5, 11.3
Missed Shots: 5, 3
Unintentional Fouls: 1, 2
Match Length: 118 min.
Points per Minute: 1.6

Match #14 -- Lee Vann Corteza d. Tom Karabotsos 100 - 10
High Run: 62, 9
Total Innings: 5, 5
PPI (Points per Inning): 20.0, 2.0
Attempted Scoring Innings: 5, 4
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 20.0, 2.5
Missed Shots: 3, 4
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 55 min.
Points per Minute: 2.0

Match #15 -- John Schmidt d. Holden Chin 100 - 61
High Run: 42 & out, 29
Total Innings: 11, 11
PPI (Points per Inning): 9.1, 5.5
Attempted Scoring Innings: 7, 7
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 14.3, 8.7
Missed Shots: 5, 4
Unintentional Fouls: 1, 2
Match Length: 78 min.
Points per Minute: 2.1

[Note: These stats are based on the "official" score for each match, which differed from my scoring in several cases.]
 
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Here are some aggregate stats for the 15 streamed matches I watched from 2017 round-robin play:


  • Points per Inning
    • For match winners: 11.0
    • For match losers: 5.0
    • For both: 8.1

    Points per Attempted Scoring Inning
    • For match winners: 19.5
    • For match losers: 8.8
    • For both: 14.3

    Points per Miss or Unintentional Foul
    • For match winners: 27.8
    • For match losers: 10.8
    • For both: 18.8

    Average (mean) High Run
    • For match winners: 56
    • For match losers: 22
    • For both: 39

    Average (median) High Run
    • For match winners: 48
    • For match losers: 27
    • For both: 35.5

    Average number of innings per match
    • Total innings: 9.1 for match winners, 8.6 for match losers
    • Attempted scoring innings: 5.1 for match winners, 4.9 for match losers

    Average (mean) match score: 100 - 43 (losers' scores ranged from 0 - 90)

    Average (mean) match length: 76 min. (range 44 min. - 118 min.)

    Average (mean) points per minute: 1.9 (range 1.5 - 2.4)
 
Wow, did I read that right? High run 97 for Jorge? Thorsten must've been shocked.

Match #7 -- Jorge Rodriguez d. Thorsten Hohmann 100 - 86
High Run: 97, 41
Total Innings: 4, 4
PPI (Points per Inning): 25.0, 21.5
Attempted Scoring Innings: 4, 3
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 25.0, 28.7
Missed Shots: 3, 3
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 91 min.
Points per Minute: 2.0
 
ctyhntr said:
Wow, did I read that right? High run 97 for Jorge? Thorsten must've been shocked.

Match #7 -- Jorge Rodriguez d. Thorsten Hohmann 100 - 86
High Run: 97, 41
Total Innings: 4, 4
PPI (Points per Inning): 25.0, 21.5
Attempted Scoring Innings: 4, 3
PPASI (Points per Attempted Scoring Inning): 25.0, 28.7
Missed Shots: 3, 3
Unintentional Fouls: 0, 0
Match Length: 91 min.
Points per Minute: 2.0
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Yes, terrific run. It looked like Jorge was going to go all the way out, but he missed a break shot. Then Hohmann got going again (ran 41) but missed on a slow swerve shot from bad position.

[The run was counted as 97; it may have been 96.]
 
Here's a comparison of 2017 vs. 2016 vs. 2015 for these aggregate stats for the streamed round-robin matches I watched (15 matches this year, 17 matches last year, 18 two years ago). The three numbers for each item are for, in order, 2017, 2016, and 2015.


  • Points per Inning
    • For match winners: 11.0, 15.0, 11.7
    • For match losers: 5.0, 5.4, 4.5
    • For both: 8.1, 10.5, 8.2

    Points per Attempted Scoring Inning
    • For match winners: 19.5, 23.3, 20.0
    • For match losers: 8.8, 9.1, 8.2
    • For both: 14.3, 17.0, 14.4

    Points per Miss or Unintentional Foul
    • For match winners: 27.8, 37.8, 36.7
    • For match losers: 10.8, 10.0, 10.2
    • For both: 18.8, 22.6, 21.7

    Average (mean) High Run
    • For match winners: 56, 63, 57
    • For match losers: 22, 20, 22
    • For both: 39, 42, 40

    Average (median) High Run
    • For match winners: 48, 56, 47
    • For match losers: 27, 15, 16.5
    • For both: 35.5, 38.5, 36.5

    Average number of innings per match
    • Total innings -- for match winners: 9.1, 6.6, 8.6; for match losers: 8.6, 5.9, 8.1
    • Attempted scoring innings -- for match winners: 5.1, 4.3, 5.0; for match losers: 4.9, 3.5, 4.4

    Average (mean) match score: 100 - 43, 100 - 32, 100 - 36

    Average (mean) match length: 76 min., 64 min., 78 min.

    Average (mean) points per minute: 1.9, 2.1, 1.7
 
I heard Darren Appleton ran 268 the other day. He won his match and continued until he missed. I don't know if the tournament awards separate prize money for the highest run. I'm curious what were the high runs for past years at this event. Would you have that information? If not, no worries, just curiosity.

AtLarge said:
Yes, terrific run. It looked like Jorge was going to go all the way out, but he missed a break shot. Then Hohmann got going again (ran 41) but missed on a slow swerve shot from bad position.

[The run was counted as 97; it may have been 96.]
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A statistic that might be interesting, that I think you have the data for would be Percentage of innings a player plays a safety. It might be even in the published stats above in the thread. It would be interesting to see who the offensive players are vs the defensive, and if one strategy or another tends to come out winner.
 
ctyhntr said:
I heard Darren Appleton ran 268 the other day. He won his match and continued until he missed. I don't know if the tournament awards separate prize money for the highest run. I'm curious what were the high runs for past years at this event. Would you have that information? If not, no worries, just curiosity.
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Normally, for good reasons, players in these events do not continue after they have reached game points. But Darren ran 100 & out in his last match yesterday (Wednesday), decided to keep going, and reached 262. The match was not on the stream, so I cannot provide any details.

Whether they have a high-run prize this year, I do not know. But they have, at least sometimes, in the past. I think the money is contributed by beneficent fans rather than coming out of the general prize fund. Any points scored after reaching game points may not count for these prizes.

The highest runs I know about in recent years at the World 14.1 event are:

2016 -- Strickland, 135 & out vs. Schmidt in a quarterfinal match (to 200 points)

2015 -- Hohmann, 141 vs. Strickland in a quarterfinal match (to 200 points)

2014 -- Stalev, 151 & out vs. Davis in a double-elimination-round match (to 150 points). He then continued the run and reached 224.

2013 -- Appleton, 200 & out vs. Bustamante in a semifinal match (to 200 points).

2012 -- Reyes, 112 vs. Schmidt in the finals (to 200 points)

2011 -- Hohmann, 142 vs. Pagulayan in a semifinal match (to 200 points)

2010 -- Immonen, 135 vs. Daya in a quarterfinal match (to 200 points)
 
AngryTurtle said:
A statistic that might be interesting, that I think you have the data for would be Percentage of innings a player plays a safety. It might be even in the published stats above in the thread. It would be interesting to see who the offensive players are vs the defensive, and if one strategy or another tends to come out winner.
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In the stats I posted above, the difference between Total Innings and Attempted Scoring Innings is the sum of safeties and intentional fouls, i.e., innings with no attempt to score a point.

For the 15 matches covered in post #1, those innings involving only a safety or an intentional foul were 43% of the match winners' innings and 43% of the match losers' innings.
 
As always, thank you for the stats .

Would be interesting to compare the stats from a full blown 14.1 tourney from long ago.

For example, 80 years ago the World Title championship that took place (this month) Oct 25 1937

Greenleaf
Crane
Mosconi
Caras
Rudolph
Ponzi
Camp
Allen
Lauri
Diehl
Seaback
Kelly

Charlesursitti.com
 
TODAY Day 5 Single Elim 200pt games
11:00am J.SCHMIDT ���� vs ���� D. HARRIMAN
1:30pm M. IMMONEN ���� vs ���� D. BAROUTY
5:00pm T. ROBLES ���� vs (SCO)J. FULCHER
7:30pm L. VAN CORTEZA ���� vs ���� H. LOMBARDO
 
Interesting to see Jonni Fulcher still in.
..he knows a little about pool, snooker, and physics.

Thanx, as always, AtLarge
 
koreandragon said:
TODAY Day 5 Single Elim 200pt games
11:00am J.SCHMIDT ���� vs ���� D. HARRIMAN
1:30pm M. IMMONEN ���� vs ���� D. BAROUTY
5:00pm T. ROBLES ���� vs (SCO)J. FULCHER
7:30pm L. VAN CORTEZA ���� vs ���� H. LOMBARDO
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I would love to watch the John Schmidt/Danny Harriman match!
 
easy-e said:
i would love to watch the john schmidt/danny harriman match!
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Oh my god Schmidt v Harriman. That's worth the price of your ppv today right there. (Also not sure the picture of the nuclear explosion does it justice.)
 
fjk said:
Am I the only one that sees the clown head? Big round nose, wide smile, skinny neck with a bow tie...he even has the funny hair on the sides of his head. I hope I'm not the only one who sees that clown.
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You could be over-reacting....or not....

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