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Billiard Video - 1957 - Walter Lindrum - 200 Point Run
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Wow, thanks. I'd heard of the great Walter Lindrum but had no idea there were videos of him out there.
If you've never seen it Mr. Lindrum has a very cool billiards-themed gravestone.
For those who don't know what he's doing, he's playing English Billiards, which is a rather bizzare hybrid of traditional straight-rail Billiards but played on a Snooker table with 3 balls. You can score with both in Billiard fashion by hitting both other balls with your cue ball, in Pool fashion by making the object ball direclty in a pocket and also by making the cue ball in-off an object ball. Just like other forms of Billiards various rule changes have been made to make it harder as players perfected technique like "the cradle" that enabled them to just go back and forth on the same shot over and over again. Current rules are here.
Links for those interested in such arcanery:
http://www.eaba.co.uk/index.html
http://www.sahof.org.au/hall_of_fame/membersDisplay.cfm?MemberID=331
If you've never seen it Mr. Lindrum has a very cool billiards-themed gravestone.
For those who don't know what he's doing, he's playing English Billiards, which is a rather bizzare hybrid of traditional straight-rail Billiards but played on a Snooker table with 3 balls. You can score with both in Billiard fashion by hitting both other balls with your cue ball, in Pool fashion by making the object ball direclty in a pocket and also by making the cue ball in-off an object ball. Just like other forms of Billiards various rule changes have been made to make it harder as players perfected technique like "the cradle" that enabled them to just go back and forth on the same shot over and over again. Current rules are here.
Links for those interested in such arcanery:
http://www.eaba.co.uk/index.html
http://www.sahof.org.au/hall_of_fame/membersDisplay.cfm?MemberID=331
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Awkward.....
I........... will just stick with the Straight-Rail carom... makes me massé
. And massés and me are like PB&J... makes me happy 
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I........... will just stick with the Straight-Rail carom... makes me massé
. And massés and me are like PB&J... makes me happy .
The main title of this needed Walter Lindrum's name on it. I would have never even looked at it had it not been posted on RSB with his name on the title.Scaramouche said:
IMO, this is an absolutely amazing video of a guy who many consider the greatest cueist of all time.
Thanks for sharing,
Fred
Thanks for the link.Scaramouche said:
Walter Lindrum was the probably greatest player of his time and that time included Ralph Greanleaf. Unfortunately, they played different games on different continents. In a World Championship that was organized in England about 1937, Lindrum, who was from Australia, had to give all the other players about a 30% head start. He won the tournament. He had more runs (he would call them "breaks") over 2000 than the other top players had 1000s.
Lindrum played fast. Early in his career, a backer told him that if he was going to be shooting for an hour, it would be better to score 1000 points rather than 500. You might also notice that he was left handed with joints missing from his bridge hand due to a childhood accident. He does shoot some shots right-handed in the clip.
English billiards, the game being played, was the main UK (and colonies) game for a century or two. It is one of the great cue sports disciplines, and you can learn a lot if you try the game. It is one of the dozen or so games I played regularly when I was learning to play.
That was pretty impressive stuff, considering Lindrum was pushing 60 when he shot that video. One can only imagine how fast he played 30-40 years prior.
My question is, do English billiard players use any type of systematic methodology when they carom the cue ball into a pocket?
Being predominantly a pool player (or at least I'd like to think so), caroming the cue ball purposely into a pocket with such accuracy is very impressive. Sure, basic position play in pool requires you to understand the general direction the cue ball will take after impact with the OB, but doing it with such precision to actually shoot the CB in a pocket several feet away is pretty amazing stuff, at least to me.
I mean, you have the 30-degree rule and the 90-degree rule, but those two rules don't cover the entire spectrum of placements where the CB, OB, and pocket can fall. Do these English billiard players do everything by feel and experience? Or do they wait until the CB, OB, and pocket fall close to 30-degree or 90-degree angles before attempting to pocket the CB?
My question is, do English billiard players use any type of systematic methodology when they carom the cue ball into a pocket?
Being predominantly a pool player (or at least I'd like to think so), caroming the cue ball purposely into a pocket with such accuracy is very impressive. Sure, basic position play in pool requires you to understand the general direction the cue ball will take after impact with the OB, but doing it with such precision to actually shoot the CB in a pocket several feet away is pretty amazing stuff, at least to me.
I mean, you have the 30-degree rule and the 90-degree rule, but those two rules don't cover the entire spectrum of placements where the CB, OB, and pocket can fall. Do these English billiard players do everything by feel and experience? Or do they wait until the CB, OB, and pocket fall close to 30-degree or 90-degree angles before attempting to pocket the CB?
jsp said:
Books on English Billiards have whole chapters and sometimes multiple chapters explaining how to make the cue ball go to the pocket. There are lots of techniques. Mostly they are based on the natural half-ball follow angle (which is not 30 degrees). That is modified by side and speed. Many of Lindrum's caroms in the video were also half-ball shots.
Nice video,its really priceless footage.
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