Mosconi's Cue Ball

lfigueroa

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Over on another group we were talking about Mosconi's cue and cue ball and I posted the following. I know there are some Mosconi fans here and I thought you might enjoy it, so here it is...

Yes, I can remember it as if it were yesterday (insert flashback music).

I think I got interested in pool right around 1968 or '69. A friend and I went to a bowling alley with his dad and mom one weekend and while they bowled, we discovered the pool room that was part of the bowling alley. My family lived in San Francisco, down by the Cow Palace, and bowling alleys with pool rooms in them were a pretty common setup back then, around there. In fact, just a short walk away from our house was Castle Lanes, where, very early on in life, I learned courtesy of a summer bowling league, that I had absolutely no talent for that game.

But occasionally I'd wander into the pool room there. It had perhaps nine or so old Brunswicks and I'd watch all these old guys bat the balls around. They seemed to favor some odd game where it only mattered if you made a ball in one particular pocket, or perhaps the other. I wouldn't decipher what they doing until much later on in life... Not long after my buddy and I became proud owners of our very own personal pool cues, I learned that Willie Mosconi would be making his annual appearance at Castle Lanes. This was huge. I had watched "The Hustler" several times by now and knew the lore.

So the day of the exhibition I get out of school early and zoom down to Castle Lanes to get a front row seat. They had recovered the front table and all the old guys already had their favored perches secured. Nonetheless, I squeezed in. Then Willie Mosconi walked into the pool room nattily dressed in a sports coat and tie. He came into the room with a box of balls and a luggage-style cue case. His hair was pure white and he had this very elegant, tailored look about him. To warm up, he racked all fifteen balls, separated the head ball and set up a break shot off to the left of the rack. The break shot he seemed to favor was a little steeper than I would have thought comfortable but it certainly didn't slow him up.

He ran off two racks and was done, ready to play his opponent, 150 points of 14.1. Over the next few years I was to see him play four times and depending on whom he was playing, he'd often kick into the back of the stack and play the head ball two rails into the side, just to give his opponent the chance at a running start. He'd always run at least a 100 and I saw him go 150 and out twice. If he had missed somewhere along the way and got out running a 50, or something like that, he'd turn to the crowd and ask, "Would you like to see a 100 ball run?" And we'd all go, "Well, yes." And he'd keep shooting and always get the 100. Then he'd shoot some trick shots, including some pretty nifty masses, and then hang around and talk and sign autographs. (It's the only autograph I have ever asked for in my life.)

Perhaps the last time I saw him was towards the late 70s, like maybe 1976, at an appearance in downtown San Francisco at a walk-up bowling alley named, appropriately enough, Downtown Bowl. He did the usual exhibition that I had seen several times before and it was still fascinating. Particularly because of the way his cue ball behaved. It was extraordinary how it would muscle into the balls and keep diving into them again and again until it had plowed through them all and come out the other side of the cluster or stack, totally unscathed.

So after his exhibition he's standing around, leaning against the table and talking to all the old timers and they're asking all the usual, "Did you ever play...?" "What'd you think of so and so's game?" and I'm trying to get closer to listen in on all this and I'm right by the side pocket of the table he's just finished his exhibition on and I look down and there it is:

Right there, at the bottom of the side pocket, is Mosconi's Cue Ball.

The blue circle on it is staring right back up at me and somehow, it was challenging me. Everyone is focused on Mosconi. No one is looking at me. I stare back into the abyss and realize I have but one moment to make a critical, and yes, criminal, decision. I look down into the pocket and I swear, Mosconi's Cue Ball is virtually howling with laughter at me. I quickly seize the little sucker, muffling it as best I can, stuff it into the pocket of my coat and dash down the stairs of the establishment scared to death that if Mosconi discovers His Cue Ball is missing, they'll lock down the whole bowling alley -- and perhaps even cordon off the entire downtown district -- until they find the missing orb.

Now, some 30 years later, I still feel bad about the larceny I committed in my callow youth. But it's done and I can't undo it and so Mosconi's Cue Ball now sits, somewhat more meekly and quietly, on my bookshelf of pool books. But I think it still knows it's Mosconi's Cue Ball and now, just every once in a while when I'm sitting at the computer writing about the trials and tribulations of my pool game, I occasionally hear a tiny little giggle coming from behind my back from somewhere on my book case.

Lou Figueroa
 
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jay helfert

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I love this story of larceny. You're a thief after my own heart. Freddie would be proud of you as well I'm sure.

But don't tell Jewett. He'll make you give it back! :rolleyes:
 

PALMERJOHN

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Ted Williams baseball cap !

Yeah Lou, My Dad had the same feelings you had about Ted Williams.
When my Dad was a kid he was at one of the games. He told me about
how, for a brief amount of time , he had an excellent opportunity to
run up and steal Ted Williams cap off his head, while Ted was talking to
fans. My Dad decided to go for it. He ran up to within 10 feet of Ted.
Ted turned just at that moment and gave the meanest stare at him. My
Dad chickened out. He swore somehow ,Ted new what he was
upto. (Ted was my Dad's idol). My Dad always felt bad for attempting
such a feat. He would often reminisce, to us kids and his freinds about
this episode. Ironicly, one of my Dad's best freinds, wrote to the Ted
Williams memorabilia agency 50 years later, and told this story. They were very amused.
They sent him back a supposedly,authentic Ted Williams cap of that time,
signed by Ted Williams. He gave it to my Dad on one Christmas. My Dad
was mortified and kept it till he died. Now I have it. It's a treasure to me !
 

crawfish

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jay helfert said:
I love this story of larceny. You're a thief after my own heart. Freddie would be proud of you as well I'm sure.

But don't tell Jewett. He'll make you give it back! :rolleyes:
Maybe you could somehow "transpose" a signature on it and sell it at Freddie's booth? It is Mosconi's ball, must be worth something.
 

Blackjack

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Great story, Lou!

I got to play Mosconi when I was a about 10 -11 years old. Every year the Boy's Club had a summer tournament, and the top finsihers in each age group got to meet and play with Willie that year. When it was my turn to play Mosconi, I was so nervous that my knees were shaking. Before we played, he asked me why I was so nervous. I told him that my entire family was there, and that everybody in the crowd of maybe 150-200 people would be watching. Willie shook his head and said, "But son, nobody's really here to watch you."

lol

God broke the mold after he made Willie! He was one of a kind!

:p
 

Irish634

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Willie is my long lost great uncle, 4 times removed. I'd like to have that cue ball back please! :D
 

Bob Jewett

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jay helfert said:
.... But don't tell Jewett. He'll make you give it back! :rolleyes:
Actually, I was thinking of making him an offer for it. Or trying one or two experiments.
 

lfigueroa

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jay helfert said:
I love this story of larceny. You're a thief after my own heart. Freddie would be proud of you as well I'm sure.

But don't tell Jewett. He'll make you give it back! :rolleyes:

Then you don't know Bob :) Thanks, Jay.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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PALMERJOHN said:
Yeah Lou, My Dad had the same feelings you had about Ted Williams.
When my Dad was a kid he was at one of the games. He told me about
how, for a brief amount of time , he had an excellent opportunity to
run up and steal Ted Williams cap off his head, while Ted was talking to
fans. My Dad decided to go for it. He ran up to within 10 feet of Ted.
Ted turned just at that moment and gave the meanest stare at him. My
Dad chickened out. He swore somehow ,Ted new what he was
upto. (Ted was my Dad's idol). My Dad always felt bad for attempting
such a feat. He would often reminisce, to us kids and his freinds about
this episode. Ironicly, one of my Dad's best freinds, wrote to the Ted
Williams memorabilia agency 50 years later, and told this story. They were very amused.
They sent him back a supposedly,authentic Ted Williams cap of that time,
signed by Ted Williams. He gave it to my Dad on one Christmas. My Dad
was mortified and kept it till he died. Now I have it. It's a treasure to me !

Great story about a great player. Thanks for sharing, PalmerJohn.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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crawfish said:
Maybe you could somehow "transpose" a signature on it and sell it at Freddie's booth? It is Mosconi's ball, must be worth something.

It's not for sale, but it's worth a lot to me.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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Blackjack said:
Great story, Lou!

I got to play Mosconi when I was a about 10 -11 years old. Every year the Boy's Club had a summer tournament, and the top finsihers in each age group got to meet and play with Willie that year. When it was my turn to play Mosconi, I was so nervous that my knees were shaking. Before we played, he asked me why I was so nervous. I told him that my entire family was there, and that everybody in the crowd of maybe 150-200 people would be watching. Willie shook his head and said, "But son, nobody's really here to watch you."

lol

God broke the mold after he made Willie! He was one of a kind!

:p

I would have loved to have a story like yours, David. Thanks.

Lou Figueroa
 

lfigueroa

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Bob Jewett said:
Actually, I was thinking of making him an offer for it. Or trying one or two experiments.

I knew it :) Bob, certainly we're not talking any experiments like with Einstein's brain, or the Shroud of Turin, or John Dillinger's...

Lou Figueroa
 

BillPorter

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lfigueroa said:
I knew it :) Bob, certainly we're not talking any experiments like with Einstein's brain, or the Shroud of Turin, or John Dillinger's...

Lou Figueroa
Very nice story, Lou. I was lucky enough to see one of his exhibitions back around 1965. I was mesmerized. Do us a favor and weigh the ball on an accurate digital scale. I am wondering if was a standard weight or not.

I know this is off topic, but talking about seeing champion giving an exhibition reminds me of one I saw that Jimmy Caras put on. The local Dallas champ, in this case, was Billy Stroud who later became known for his cue. Of course Caras won, Billy making maybe 40 balls. Immediately after the match, I was walking out of the pool room with Billy and what do you think he said about Caras? Billy, turned to me and said, and I quote exactly, "He can't play." Of course Billy was only about 20 years old at the time, so we'll give him a pass on that one.:D
 

Bob Jewett

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BillPorter said:
... Do us a favor and weigh the ball on an accurate digital scale. I am wondering if was a standard weight or not. ...
I think you would want to compare it to what were probably Hyatt Centennials from the same set, and unless Lou has been holding out on us, the object balls are lost to history.
 

poolcuemaster

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I got to see Jimmy Caras put on a exibition match in a bowling alley in Charlotte NC around 1974 also Mr Porter, and I thought that the little pamplet style booklet he gave me was the best. Somehow it dissapeared from my dresser drawer and it was autographed so maybe worth a few dollars, you didn't happen to get the small book did you ?

Leonard

PS I don't mean the same book I owned
 
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BillPorter

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poolcuemaster said:
I got to see Jimmy Caras put on a exibition match in a bowling alley in Charlotte NC around 1974 also Mr Porter, and I thought that the little pamplet style booklet he gave me was the best. Somehow it dissapeared from my dresser drawer and it was autographed so maybe worth a few dollars, you didn't happen to get the small book did you ?

Leonard

PS I don't mean the same book I owned
Gee, Leonard, at first I thought you were asking if I had stolen your book!:D Just kidding. No, I didn't get a pamphlet, but you're right, it is probably worth something today. Caras always seemed to be a modest man to me.
 

poolcuemaster

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I hope to get to meet you at the Derby this year Bill, I had to miss it this year and the US Open so I'll be really bummed out if I can't make them this year. I started going to US Open in 1998 and DCC in 2003. Last year I didn't find the AZ room at DCC to meet everyone.

Leonard
 

JimmyRayK

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Lou,
I absolutely loved your story.

With all the negativity that sometimes takes place on this forum, this type of post is exactly what there needs to be more of. :)

Thanks for the memories,
Jimmy
 
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