Corner pocket miter angles

realkingcobra

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What table do these pocket miter angles best remind you of?
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realkingcobra

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Glenn

On my Gold Crown 4 what are the correct angles supposed to be? I have always been curious as to the correct dimensions for my table.

If you want to provide a diagram, drawing or picture for reference that would be a bonus.

Thanks

Kevin
Factory is 142 miter, 12 degrees down angle.
 

realkingcobra

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They are recessed


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When they break apart from balls being pocketed, guaranteed, where are you going to get the factory replacement pockets? We have a customer that bought a Predator 9ft, drop shipped to his home in Tacoma, WA last summer, with a rail damaged in shipment, and still hasn't had the table assembled, because he's waiting on a replacement rail, imagine that 😉
 

rexus31

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When they break apart from balls being pocketed, guaranteed, where are you going to get the factory replacement pockets? We have a customer that bought a Predator 9ft, drop shipped to his home in Tacoma, WA last summer, with a rail damaged in shipment, and still hasn't had the table assembled, because he's waiting on a replacement rail, imagine that 😉
Do the 9' tables have plywood rails too?
 

fat tony

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Hi guys, speaking of miter angles, I'm doing my first subrail extension and was wondering if I should have cushions glued so that I can draw the new miter angles on the extended rails and the cushions all at once and see just exactly the dimensions of the pocket? Rail work is really not my stong suit and I'm no table mechanic, but I can hold tools, I have time and patience and can follow instructions.

The old miter angles were horrid, something like 146-148 and the pockets kept denying shots down the rail all the time. The 5/16" plywood extensions are already in place (pics or it didn't happen) and cut with a japanese pull-saw (which i can't recommend enough). My plan is / was to assemble the rail frame with pockets and mark the new miter angles all at once. Object is to have 4 3/8" corners, 4 7/8" sides with 3/16" neoprene facings, 141 degree corners and 102 degree sides with 12 degrees down angle (because the shelf depth isn't that much) which I have gathered is pretty much the standard on a GC subrail extension. My table is not a GC, but very similar. I have a good miter saw than can do the miter and down angles.


So, if I have the cushions glued when assembling the rail frame, I can draw all new angles and see precisely the dimensions of the pockets. However, as I understand the order of business is to first have the subrail angles cut and then the rails glued and cut?

Additional questions:
- anyone cut rail rubber with a japanese pull-saw or an electric miter saw? If so, any comments?
I saw this picture in AZ I believe that showed someone sanding the cushion ends with a miter saw that had a sanding disk or something. He was pushing the rail on the miter saw against the side of the disk, and as soon as the disk touches the rail wood, the cushion is done. Pretty neat I thought, maybe I'll just do that...

Anyways, I'd appreciate any advice and comments.


Cheers,
Tony
 

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realkingcobra

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You have it all figured out correct so far. Use the 10" sanding disk on the miter saw with 50grt sand paper, and yes, glue the cushions on first. Sometimes you just need call and ask some questions, it helps, so call me if you have any questions.

Glen 702-927-5689
 

realkingcobra

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Hi guys, speaking of miter angles, I'm doing my first subrail extension and was wondering if I should have cushions glued so that I can draw the new miter angles on the extended rails and the cushions all at once and see just exactly the dimensions of the pocket? Rail work is really not my stong suit and I'm no table mechanic, but I can hold tools, I have time and patience and can follow instructions.

The old miter angles were horrid, something like 146-148 and the pockets kept denying shots down the rail all the time. The 5/16" plywood extensions are already in place (pics or it didn't happen) and cut with a japanese pull-saw (which i can't recommend enough). My plan is / was to assemble the rail frame with pockets and mark the new miter angles all at once. Object is to have 4 3/8" corners, 4 7/8" sides with 3/16" neoprene facings, 141 degree corners and 102 degree sides with 12 degrees down angle (because the shelf depth isn't that much) which I have gathered is pretty much the standard on a GC subrail extension. My table is not a GC, but very similar. I have a good miter saw than can do the miter and down angles.


So, if I have the cushions glued when assembling the rail frame, I can draw all new angles and see precisely the dimensions of the pockets. However, as I understand the order of business is to first have the subrail angles cut and then the rails glued and cut?

Additional questions:
- anyone cut rail rubber with a japanese pull-saw or an electric miter saw? If so, any comments?
I saw this picture in AZ I believe that showed someone sanding the cushion ends with a miter saw that had a sanding disk or something. He was pushing the rail on the miter saw against the side of the disk, and as soon as the disk touches the rail wood, the cushion is done. Pretty neat I thought, maybe I'll just do that...

Anyways, I'd appreciate any advice and comments.


Cheers,
Tony
You almost have the extensions correct, but you missed a key point on them.
 
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