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Do you know anyone that has been banned from a pool room?
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Jamison Neu and Dennis Dieckman while in Calif . As Stated by Dieckman to the RatF@@ker.. Late 2000. Might have a video or letter in my file.
In 27 years, we’ve had to ban a few here for a month or more. The most common reason is abuse of the tables / equipment / furnishings - swinging their cue or our house cue like a baseball swing in frustration and accidentally striking the table for example.
Another example would be trying to start an unprovoked fight with another customer for no justifiable reason. And of course, a $ match with the owner/manager and failing to pay up on your losses will likely get you a permanent boot out the door.
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brunswick1901
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In 1969 when I was 19 I started to go to the Billiard Palace on the second floor in a building on Bellflower Boulevard every chance I could. At the time it had to be the best place for pool action in Southern California. The room was owned by Butch and his father, I do not think I ever heard their last name and Butch was a tough, no non-sense owner.
Cuban Joe was a decent pool player but his hustle was to make prop bets and or badger guys into a bad game. If you had enough of Joe's antics and threatened him he would show you he was carrying a gun. Trying to badger people into a bet and showing a gun amazingly was not enough to get Joe barred.
I didn’t see how it started but the gun didn’t stop Butch from tackling Joe, and while sitting on Joe's chest Butch was trying to re-arrange Joe's face. In spite of being disliked by almost everyone the players pulled Butch off. I think the guys were more concerned about Butch than Joe.
If I had to guess Cuban Joe was barred for life.
Cuban Joe was a decent pool player but his hustle was to make prop bets and or badger guys into a bad game. If you had enough of Joe's antics and threatened him he would show you he was carrying a gun. Trying to badger people into a bet and showing a gun amazingly was not enough to get Joe barred.
I didn’t see how it started but the gun didn’t stop Butch from tackling Joe, and while sitting on Joe's chest Butch was trying to re-arrange Joe's face. In spite of being disliked by almost everyone the players pulled Butch off. I think the guys were more concerned about Butch than Joe.
If I had to guess Cuban Joe was barred for life.
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He was politely given notice that he was barred for 3 months. Next month he's allowed back in, so we'll see if the fun continues.
Btw, he was also banned from his own home by the mayor for 10 days (no joke), just to illustrate what type of specimen this is. Let's say he re-invents anti-socialism.
Because in the real world, fines require two basic facts, fantasyland.
A- the fined party must comply and have money.
b) the party imposing the fine has to have resources to enforce the penalty.
Real world stuff. I'm not sure you're in the neighborhood.
The real world is more complicated.
If the Singapore players were fined their federation should pay for it. However because the players are banned it hurts their income.
The punishment should fall on the federation not players.
I am suggesting for pro level players
be fined through their federations because players are not governed by the federation.
Does governing the sport mean controlling the players choices of play?
Throughout sports there has always been a history of cooperation and collaboration. A ban is not supportive of the cultural mission.
Bans have historically been used to exclude nuisances. Not exclude participation.
Only EBPF players get golden immunity. Players from Singapore receive different treatment where is the equity?
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You better look up the definition of ban before you reveal that which is observable.
Where is the evidence to show bans work?
A prison and punishment model exists in pool but what does it help build or grow? Is there a drug rehab program for Billy Thorpe?
The culture of using a ban varies widely. In the case of Singapore players that never broke any rules until WPA said they broke rules.
Its the federation that should be held responsible.
Does pool want a "federal government"?
Why cant WPA officials be banned and there actions are never monitored?
Pool makes pool players second class or citizens with no rights in their governance structure.
Wtf are you talking about?
I'm not the keeper of such fact and I garontee not having someone around is 100% successful in preventing his being there.
The history of bans in pool was used to exclude people of one skin color.
Is the interpretation of the law using the same culture as the founding members of the American organized pool community?
Evidence based bans, what evidence is there that a ban is illegitimate or legitimate?
Corruption in power took 2000 years for societies to fight back against.
One would expect you would answer a question occasionally.
I can believe I read the dog shit you typed and
1. BS and dog shit. Banning precedes any organized pool competition. It was to get rid of dix that made themselves undesirable.
3. What do the founding fathers have to do with this? And, why are American principles going to be imposed on pool?
G. Owner said GTFO and don't come.back. Sounds pretty legit.
§ 2000, eh? Clearly corresponds to Christianity. Show your source, round# citer.