GC4 pocket liners on a GC1, they were not trimed, i just mounted them correctly. And those are 4" corners and 4 1/2" sides.
Install disaster yesterday...I want to give up
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My first impression is you should have spent as much time researching the very best installer you could get regardless of price, even if he wasn't local, as you did with all your other preparatory work, to make absolutely sure you'd have your dream table when the installation was finished. Table owners just don't realize that regardless of the quality of the table, it will only play as good as the installer who sets it up.
My second thought was you shouldn't have paid them if you weren't happy with the work!
My advice now is to get the best installer you possibly can to come fix it right - even if it requires biting the bullet and spending another $200+ on new bed cloth, even if it requires getting someone really good from out of your area, even if it requires waiting a number of weeks until they can do it - very good installers are in high demand, and even it requires whatever $$ that installer will charge you for the job. Anything less, you just won't be happy with your dream table! Good luck!
Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Suffice to say I think we've all been there before at one time or another. In my first poolroom I had all GCI's and the guy I got to recover the tables couldn't even put the plastic aprons back in place properly. He left the rails covered with the old cloth and only redid the bed of the tables. They played okay but it looked a little funny. Some of the pockets had the proper hex bolts in them and some had screws instead, due to a shortage of hex bolts.
Needless to say I fired the guy after the job was over and that's the last time I worked on my own tables.
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Is the cloth on tight?
Funny story - at the BCA Junior Nationals roughly 10+ years ago, hosted by a university poolroom in the midwest with 20+ tables, the Simonis cloth provided to the BCA for the event was installed upsidedown by the installers. There was not time nor cloth to correct the problem, so the BCA Junior Nationals Championship was played in its entirety with upsidedown Simonis cloth. Funny, because unlike many other cloths, there is a huge difference between the up and down side of Simonis cloth.Sorry to hear about your bad experience. Suffice to say I think we've all been there before at one time or another. In my first poolroom I had all GCI's and the guy I got to recover the tables couldn't even put the plastic aprons back in place properly. He left the rails covered with the old cloth and only redid the bed of the tables. They played okay but it looked a little funny. Some of the pockets had the proper hex bolts in them and some had screws instead, due to a shortage of hex bolts.
Needless to say I fired the guy after the job was over and that's the last time I worked on my own tables.
I used a guy that does the best pool halls in my area and travels all around Texas.
He charged a premium and corrected a lot of issues with my original hackjob install, but I found out later that he left crusty glue spots on top of all the rails. It's very hard to find a really professional installer.
He charged a premium and corrected a lot of issues with my original hackjob install, but I found out later that he left crusty glue spots on top of all the rails. It's very hard to find a really professional installer.
Is it too late to stop payment on the check? If you use the credit card call them they are surprisingly helpful to their customers.
Something some people here failed to consider.....
I did consider this. He came with a strong recommendation from a former room owner.I should have given it more thought considering other factors. In retrospect I should have called the guy who had jacked up the table originally and had a talk with him. He's pretty well regarded around here. There were other factors that could have contributed to the poor assembly procedures but still doesn't take away the fact that it still was for a paying customer.
I have no idea who is really qualified, I pm'd RKC to see his schedule and got no response and I believe this was before the accident. He's highly regarded but yet we have someone on this thread unhappy with him. I got a strong recommendation for the guy I used. After pulling that ball box off myself I cant even imagine that you would remove the mounting brackets from the inside of the ball box and mount them on the outside of the ball box. I mean there's pre-drilled holes for it on the panel it attaches to. The guy would rather put his name on work like that than go to a hardware store less than a half mile away. I got strong recommendations for the guy that installed the table. Who cross threads 1/2" course threaded bolts? That's 6 of 8.
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Bite the bullett
If you want quality work,you pay to get the best
if not you pay the price of regret
what you are going through is not that unusual
call mark gregory
perfect pocketz
describe the condition of the table
realize you are talking to the best
it will seem like too much,but its not
he is earning his money and you will be happy by the time its perfect
770 548 4292
i am a satisfied customer
i tried getting locals to put a table in my house,it never was right
not level ,wrong angles on the pockets,banks come up short
i would have been happy if all got was dirty felt and a little glue
believe me it can get worse and you might find out the hard way
If you want quality work,you pay to get the best
if not you pay the price of regret
what you are going through is not that unusual
call mark gregory
perfect pocketz
describe the condition of the table
realize you are talking to the best
it will seem like too much,but its not
he is earning his money and you will be happy by the time its perfect
770 548 4292
i am a satisfied customer
i tried getting locals to put a table in my house,it never was right
not level ,wrong angles on the pockets,banks come up short
i would have been happy if all got was dirty felt and a little glue
believe me it can get worse and you might find out the hard way
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Just seems strange he'd spend the money to get Mark to do the rails, and all the other meticulous preparations he did to make sure everything would be perfect, then hire an installer to do the installation based on a recommendation from a room proprietor. Clearly the poolroom proprietor has lower standards than this gentlemen needed - too bad.
Most table owners are completely ignorant of what's involved in setting up a table, so it's a pretty low bar for most installers / mechanics to satisfy. Obviously this was not the case here, where the owner sounds like he's quite the perfectionist, and likely has more knowledge and far higher expectations than the installers anticipated.
Problem solved....Trent will be in my neck of the woods and will be making a stop at my house to put new cloth on the bed and correct any problems.
On another note I find I don't mind the drop pockets. Still going to reinstall the ball return though.
On another note I find I don't mind the drop pockets. Still going to reinstall the ball return though.
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This is good news. You'll have a great playing table when finished....Don't forget to call the hacker and thank him. Iv'e been through this....A bad job leads us to a quality installer.
It's not cost effective to drive out from WA to IL to set up a pool table, sorry as it would cost more than you paid for your pool table. As far as prople not getting ong with me on AZB, that's pretty much normal, but it has nothing to do with my quality of work.
RKC is the best and if you can get him to come, it will be worth the time and money! I learned this in life: not everyone is going to like you, thats ok, you should still treat them with respect. It goes a long way.
Trent