Karl Boyes talking crap

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Why should Karl bother to play Earl. He has nothing to gain . Earl is yesterday, Karl is today and tomorrow.

Nah, as the WCOP proved Earl is still Today. And he will still be around tomorrow. He has achieved more in each decade of life since being 20 years old than any other player on the planet INCLUDING Efren.

I have been critical of Earl's behavior, seen it first hand, been trapped in the hallway listening to him rant....but the man's game was great and IS great.

My thought is if Karl wants to talk shit then let them play. Let him get on the table and talk shit while they are playing. And Earl can chirp right back. That's to Karl's advantage because a silent and focused Earl is more than enough to take Karl or any pro out.

Beating Earl heads-up won't get Karl a world title, that's right. But back in Mosconi's day a lot of the titles were contested in heads-up challenge matches. So Karl could put on his resume, 'beat 3 time world champ/5x US Open champ' in race to 100.

As far as nothing to gain....well it's kind of like saying that pros in Mosconi's day had nothing to gain....yes they did because beating Mosconi was something everyone wanted to have as part of their career.

Anyway, Karl is totally entitled to his opinion of Earl's behavior. Many pros are outspoken about it. But there simply isn't a line of pros eager to try and take Earl's money because they know what they are in for....besides the expected chirping they would be in for a pool clinic reminding them exactly what the difference is between a 3x world champion and the average professional is.
 
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Blue Jam

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Why be so territorial about pool? I get it; Boyes is "European" and Earl is American...
Boyes has commented on Earls beahviour at the table on more than one occasion, and rightly so...
Earl is a great player and truly deserving of the hall of fame status, but the way he behaves, especially when things aren't going he's way is childish. Had this been snooker or tennis Earl would have been fined thousands of dollars.
I think the whole "USA is best" way of thinking is stupid and it often sends discussions down strange paths where the world is black and white and where there is a strong yearning for post WWII America.
Lets embrace all skilled pool players as ambassadors of our great sport!

This. :thumbup:
 

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I guess this whole argument boils down to what you would want on your tombstone:

"Here lies XXX, broke his way through some races to 100 for the $$$, made some keyboard warriors happy"

or

"Here lies XXX, World Champion"

I know which one I would want. I suspect the ones who want to gamble already lost a whole chunk on their boys (not Boyes), or even worse probably didn't dare back their side. Just my 2c.

Seeing as how Shane sits on top of the money list and invests his money into real estate I think "he made the most money" is probably what will go on the headstone.

Despite not winning titles overseas somehow Shane makes more money. That's gotta sting. When he has a better year and snaps off some overseas events the gap will get even bigger.

And as for Earl....well I will make a bet, we can each put 1000 in a CD and pay off in 20 years. I bet from now until 20 years from now no other player equals or beats Earl's 5x US Open and 3x 9 Ball World Championships. Bet?

And if Earl adds another one of those two titles in that time then that's one more that has to be matched.

On his tombstone will go, "nobody won more big ones than I did".
 
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seven_7days

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Surely you are joking my friend. Karl has World titles on his resume (res-umay), no disrespect to Mike but he is a great player without major titles to back him up.

There's a legion of players in the Phillipines that could absolutely toy with Karl in a reasonable-length set for the $$.
Wanna guess how many of them have major titles?

Just sayin'
 

arps

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I watched 90% of the tournament, and Boyes was a model sportsman.

To me, when I see Orcollo walking like a frog around the table after
a win, I think," What level of education does this PROFESSIONALS have?"

This pro pool player has won a lot of tournaments, but he acts like he's never beer there!

Say what you want, but if I play someone, and he beats me in a very tight race, and he struts and acts like Orcollo.....I want to.....ummmmmh!!! :(

Just sayin.!


I'm I the only one who feels this way?
Earl and Darren stood on top of the table after winning world 9-ball. Bustamante threw his cue and acted like he wanted to punch someone. Pagulayan went jumping around and even rolled on the floor. Mika and Niels cried. Wu and Daryl Peach screamed. When you keep your concentration for 2-3 hours in the most important game of your life and then you win it, a burst of emotions is almost inevitable. When this happens, somehow people get hypnotized and forget reality; and sometimes they do crazy stuff.
FYI, it's a gorilla-walk. :wink:
 

SakuJack

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Earl and Darren stood on top of the table after winning world 9-ball. Bustamante threw his cue and acted like he wanted to punch someone. Pagulayan went jumping around and even rolled on the floor. Mika and Niels cried. Wu and Daryl Peach screamed. When you keep your concentration for 2-3 hours in the most important game of your life and then you win it, a burst of emotions is almost inevitable. When this happens, somehow people get hypnotized and forget reality; and sometimes they do crazy stuff.
FYI, it's a gorilla-walk. :wink:

Yep, I love that kind of stuff.

I've never understood those who criticise players for celebrating after a win. It's a perfectly okay thing to do and should never be lumped in alongside things like deliberate sharking during a match.
 

PINKLADY

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so did Boyes throw-out his infamous: "Ï'm a Champion, and you're a chump!"?

i would have thought that after having your shirt ripped clean-off of you, and almost getting your ass beaten - twice, that a lesson might have been learned since December.

(plus the vice-grip i still owe him for grabbing my man's crotch!)
 

arps

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@SakuJack
also, i dont think smiling with no teeth was disrespectful when Efren and Alcano won their world titles. :D
 
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lfigueroa

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Awesome, that would be hilarious. And John Schmidt and Danny Harriman could be their opponents.

Stan Shuffet and Duckie vs ...... John Barton and Lou F. as the undercard. Coaching allowed. ;-)


I cannot begin to fathom what the team dynamics would be with you as my partner.

Lou Figueroa
 

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I cannot begin to fathom what the team dynamics would be with you as my partner.

Lou Figueroa

Me either but as long as we are talking fantasy pairings that will never happen.....

I'd go for you and Duckie vs. me and Stan. 14.1 for a large amount. Think you can get Duckie to come out of hiding for that?
 

JB Cases

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so did Boyes throw-out his infamous: "Ï'm a Champion, and you're a chump!"?

i would have thought that after having your shirt ripped clean-off of you, and almost getting your ass beaten - twice, that a lesson might have been learned since December.

(plus the vice-grip i still owe him for grabbing my man's crotch!)

Ummmm, elaborate?
 

JAM

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Me either but as long as we are talking fantasy pairings that will never happen.....

I'd go for you and Duckie vs. me and Stan. 14.1 for a large amount. Think you can get Duckie to come out of hiding for that?

Reminds me of this ---> HERE :grin:
 

j_zippel

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2010 World 8-ball Champion, bronze medalist in the 2013 World 9-ball championships, and undefeated in the 2014 Mosconi Cup competition.



Karl is an accomplished player.


He is also a mouth piece. He was lucky with that safety on Holland, on the 8, hill-hill..


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PINKLADY

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Ummmm, elaborate?

Day 3, Beatles Lounge, EUR celebratory party. we had 6 others with us from NC, and they went to their rooms to sulk. we called Dennis's room & invited him to join & be a good sport & raise a glass. he was well received by Team EUR.

i'm at the bar getting drinks for all. Boyes has me trapped for 20mins, talking about nothing & making no moves on me. KK9 is upstairs with Lou F & Angel Levine. KK9 et al return. i get out from under Karl & apologize to the gorgeous woman next to me - and she informs me that she's not "with" him. KK9 goes to the bar; Karl is there (i'm delivering drinks). Karl grabs his crotch - more than once. Dennis steps in to order a drink. (KK9 slips out) Karl insists that he is next, because:

"I'm a Champion, and you're a chump!"

Dennis grabs him by the front of his shirt, but the shirt rips completely off. and Team EUR surrounds Dennis & pulls him off & encircles him. Brits backed-up Dennis & Johann escorted Karl out (to his room upstairs).

Dennis had 1 more drink & went upstairs to his room. 30 mins later he came back. everything was cool! then i saw Karl staggering through the casino back towards Beatles (in a new tank top). i grabbed Johann & he climbed through the B-E-A-T-L-E-S letters & stopped him. just as Dennis caught glimpse.... it took approx 20 people & 2 layers of people encircling him, to hold him. 12+/+ security surrounded the outside.

and Michaela - who was technically still on the Mosconi referee clock till Day 4 - stepped into that circle & exercised her powers.
 

JB Cases

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Day 3, Beatles Lounge, EUR celebratory party. we had 6 others with us from NC, and they went to their rooms to sulk. we called Dennis's room & invited him to join & be a good sport & raise a glass. he was well received by Team EUR.

i'm at the bar getting drinks for all. Boyes has me trapped for 20mins, talking about nothing & making no moves on me. KK9 is upstairs with Lou F & Angel Levine. KK9 et al return. i get out from under Karl & apologize to the gorgeous woman next to me - and she informs me that she's not "with" him. KK9 goes to the bar; Karl is there (i'm delivering drinks). Karl grabs his crotch - more than once. Dennis steps in to order a drink. (KK9 slips out) Karl insists that he is next, because:

"I'm a Champion, and you're a chump!"

Dennis grabs him by the front of his shirt, but the shirt rips completely off. and Team EUR surrounds Dennis & pulls him off & encircles him. Brits backed-up Dennis & Johann escorted Karl out (to his room upstairs).

Dennis had 1 more drink & went upstairs to his room. 30 mins later he came back. everything was cool! then i saw Karl staggering through the casino back towards Beatles (in a new tank top). i grabbed Johann & he climbed through the B-E-A-T-L-E-S letters & stopped him. just as Dennis caught glimpse.... it took approx 20 people & 2 layers of people encircling him, to hold him. 12+/+ security surrounded the outside.

and Michaela - who was technically still on the Mosconi referee clock till Day 4 - stepped into that circle & exercised her powers.

Awesome story! Esp. Michaela reffing the incident.
 

West Point 1987

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I suspect a whole lot of the woofing between Earl and Karl was contrived for ratings...it seemed to get WAY too much mention during the commentary. No doubt the "jerk factor" is high with all concerned; but the way the commentators kept bringing it up seemed like hype.

Pretty crazy story about MC...first time I read it I thought how rude that Karl grabbed his crotch in front of a lady...then I re-read it and realized it wasn't his crotch! :eek:
 

Celophanewrap

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So would it be safe to assume that the players are pretty much all friends and any of the talked about "wolfing" and "shit talking" is all in fun and the personal rivalries and animosity are contrived for the benefit of the fans?
 
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