Flakeandrun
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My point was not discussing all sports, and physiology plays a part in some sports more than others. But relating to pool, such discussions are laughable. The divide exists because of a huge variety of factors, a lot of them are existing outside of the world of pool and are just part of living on planet earth, and the systems we have found ourselves a part of.
I agree with you, Isn't that a sad reality?
Again, isn't that a sad reality?
Agree with you. It is not like some normal equal pay - equal opportunities debate. We are not talking about CEOs sat behind a desk delegating tasks, or crunching numbers (although I would argue that STEM opportunities, and a wide variety of others, suffer from a similar issue... pre-conceived attitudes impacting aspiration, opportunity and deliverance of equality)
There are so many deeply ingrained societal attitudes that need to change. Women cannot simply be handpicked from a select few and told 'here you go'... It's like giving a dwarf and an adult male the same bike in a 1km race and calling that 'equality'... We must strive for equity, affording young people (regardless of sex, race, religion, economic background etc.) the same, perception free opportunity at a 'grass roots' level. Sport is impacted by so many external factors. Those people who don't really know how to explain or justify those factors start talking bollocks about 'fast-twitch muscle fibres' and the genetic make up of the eye yada yada yada.
The equity that is needed doesn't exist in any sport, and some make more or less effort to obtain it (sadly usually based on financial interest/gain).
So... these generational stereotypes, fabricated perceptions and afforded opportunities to a select few (which are almost token gestures), will be in place for many years to come... the only way to defy them is to build equity. In attitudes and opportunities to perform. Removing any and all bias. To the point where even unconscious gender bias is filtered from perception of the game. Giving the very youngest an opportunity to take up the game we love without all the preconceived nonsense that currently exists.
I do totally agree with you about your initial point.
"Do we watch the 100th ranked male when in a tournament? No, unless we know that male personally. We only like to watch the top 16 male pros. We might still watch a male vs female match, but that will be solely due to the battle of the sexes. Not on the playing ability of the women as a sole criteria."
And I think that is a sad reflection on the state of the game we like to play. A game that, let's face it, is not hindered by sex at all. But by the attitudes of those taking part in it... on a corporate, competitive and social level.
Thanks for voicing your thoughts in a non-trogolodyte manner that is relevant, and facilitates further discussion. Know that's difficult for some people here
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That is not something I have mentioned once... I have clearly described some thoughts on the matter at hand, and in reply to another poster who I respect here.
This is a public online forum, and if that's what gets you hard, and that's really how you like to feel inside. Then sure. Why not? Boo your nasty sexist opinion lol
can anyone say “Token”. I wonder how long it will be before Emily inserts players for the LGB and Tranny crowd.
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