Shaw's last Mosconi Cup?
- Thread starter Forbin
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Yep....Britain can leave the EU...
...but it would take a cataclysmic natural disaster for Britain to leave Europe.
Actually it doesn't make any sense that these players are living in the United States but playing for Team Europe. The sense of loyalty should be for the country which is providing you all the opportunities, not the country where you were born and which you now choose to leave.
Matchroom stated the rules on here I think a few weeks back.
In theory a player could change sides, but would have to qualify in line with (roughly speaking) the same rules applied to Olympic athletes changing sides.
In reality for a pool player it would be impossible as they would have to stop playing for 5 years or something, so it will never happen (in other sports its slightly different as you have the concept of competing for your club or your country, in pool although always playing for yourself you are listed as representing your country).
They're no different to a US ex-pat living in Asia, Europe etc, they would still be Americans, they just happen to work abroad for a few months/years!
lol theres excactly one player on team europe who lives in the US! do you think the result would be different when albin or francisco-ruiz would play instead of jayson?
and btw how would you like a team US with SVB, daz, mika, jayson and vilmos?
or would you like to watch the ryder cup with 5 euros on team USA?
So should all those USA track gold medals and world records go to European countries because the athletes ply their trade and earn their crust in Europe? Methinks not. Likewise, a pool player will be loyal to the country that he or she is, er, loyal to. There are different kinds of loyalties of course. Darren Appleton is giving back big time to pool in the USA, a country he resides in much of the time where he has taken many an opportunity. Would he play for them? Nah, never, that's a completely different kind of loyalty. Don't make the mistake of thinking being loyal to A is being disloyal to B.
That was me, my original question was can a cup player opt to play for the U.S.in stead of EU, match room responded with no, they would have to be a U.S. citizen and would not be allowed to Qualify for either team for 3 years.
Even tho some Euro players on the cup reside in the States, they also said something about it falling inline with Olympic rules, but why would they impose that since match room has nothing to do with Olympics ?
Maybe because pool is trying to be an Olympic sport.
Pro players will endorse any cue and even make believe they play with that brand, much like a hooker endorsing a name brand mattress.
Partly that and because Matchroom has always taken governance quite seriously (note Barry Hearn never signed Alex Higgins in the heydays of snooker), by adopting Olympic style guidelines it shows a professional approach to the game (which of course in no way hurts its chances of one day becoming an olympic sport, however small those chances may be).
One Little Wrinkle
Yes of course Britain will remain part of Europe. But notice that the European team does not play under the flag of Europe, there being no such thing. They play under the flag of the European Union. It is theoretically possible that the EU could demand that no Brit play under their flag after Brexit. Of course, the European team could always adopt some non-official logo as their flag. But the EU has rules (including sports rules) that they might theoretically use to prevent EU member countries from allowing their athletes to compete in the Cup if Brits were on the team, and if anybody cared enough.
Yes of course Britain will remain part of Europe. But notice that the European team does not play under the flag of Europe, there being no such thing. They play under the flag of the European Union. It is theoretically possible that the EU could demand that no Brit play under their flag after Brexit. Of course, the European team could always adopt some non-official logo as their flag. But the EU has rules (including sports rules) that they might theoretically use to prevent EU member countries from allowing their athletes to compete in the Cup if Brits were on the team, and if anybody cared enough.
i think the effort will be a bit to high to cut the UK from the european continental plate *rofl*
but this will be a consequently brexit
best regards from germany
The real question is can Russia and it's players play for both Europe and Asia?
Most of the country is in Asia.
Most of the country is in Asia.
I do not believe they Play officially under any flag. They (Matchroom) have just Chosen the flag of EU to be the easily recognizable Symbol for the Team. There has been non EU Players in the Team already before...Russian for example....
therefore neither British gov't nor any EU entity has any power to prevent anyone from playing....they are invited to a Team and not official representatives of their respective countries...
The real question is can Russia and it's players play for both Europe and Asia?
Most of the country is in Asia.
most of the People are in Europe...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe#List_of_states_and_territories
even Kazakhstan is part of Europe, where only a bit more than 5% of the country is located in Europe.
The national associations can cherry-pick where they want to play.
And btw. Scotland will have a referendum, so they could stay in the EU
even Kazakhstan is part of Europe, where only a bit more than 5% of the country is located in Europe.
The national associations can cherry-pick where they want to play.
And btw. Scotland will have a referendum, so they could stay in the EU
Has a Russian player played in the Mosconi Cup yet for Europe?
Chinakhov I thought would be in the running for sure.