I agree, simutaneous is not the same as first.
It is kind of like the saying in baseball, 'a tie goes to the runner'. There is no such rule & in fact, believe it or not. the rule book says in the case of a tie the batter bats over. Now that will ever happen as no umpire has ever had the courage to call a tie. So... in umpire school they my preach, 'a tie goes to the runner'. But it's not the rule says....
They are always changing the rules to prevent disputes & fights. That is partly why I stopped & will never play APA again, unless my chidren ask me to play in one with them. I hope they don't ask, I might even back out if they do ask. No offense meant to anyone playing APA. It may be fine for you & once was for me as well.
Regards,
I agree.I have always played and heard that a split hit is a good hit.
With that said if I'm playing a game that counts i always ask another player to watch.And I always explain to my opponent and the observer exactly how I'm going to shoot the shot. Spin-draw-follow-whatever.
Yo momma jokes.I can always retort:
"Yes, it appeared a split hit to you. But I have much better vision than you, and I was able to see that it hit this ball first. And, if you were empowered with the same vision as me, you would also agree."
And then where shoud the argument lead from this point?
Maybe when you become an adult you will be less adversarial and a little bit humble...
...maybe.
dld
I don't believe the rules of 9-ball contemplate a split hit. As nobcitypool said, the odds of a literal split hit are incredibly slim.
The WPA rules simply state "The first object ball contacted by the cue ball on each shot must be the lowest-numbered ball remaining on the table."
http://wpa-pool.com/web/index.asp?id=117&pagetype=rules
IIRC, the rules of baseball also don't contemplate a "tie" on the basepaths.[/QUOTE]
TWS,
Actaully you are correct. I 'mis-spoke' earlier. It is not the rule book that contemplates a tie but it eludes to one. I will be paraphrasing:
1. to be safe the runner must contact the base before being tagged by the ball or a player is in pocession of the ball and in contact with the base (forced out)
2. to get a runner out he must be tagged with the ball or a defensive player must be in pocession of the ball & in contact with the base before the runner contacts the base (forced out)
The rule book makes no mention of a tie.
It was the director of an umpire school that told me in a true tie, if it were ever called, based on the rules, the batter would bat over as he is neither safe nor out.
As I said that will never happen as the umpire is going to make a call & will never say it was a tie.
Regards,
Well, sure - anybody can look up the rule. Where's the challenge in that? Real men argue about it.From the WSR regulations:
26. Split Hits
If the cue ball strikes a legal object ball and a non-legal object ball at approximately the same instant, and it cannot be determined which ball was hit first, it will be assumed that the legal target was struck first.
The regulations often fill in the details of how rules are to be applied, so you need to read them as well. See: http://www.wpa-pool.com/web/the_regulations
no such thing as a split hit.
It's either good or bad