Stance.

jdsons · Dec 9, 2007

I did a search and was unable to find anything on stance.

Stance for me is a BIG struggle for two years. I have tried several and can not get confortable. I am open to any suggestions from ball bangers to pros. If this subject has been posted in depth, please post a link to the information.

If there are websits, videos, ect...that helped you and you think it could help me (others) let us know.

thanks for your time,
jdsons

iusedtoberich · Dec 9, 2007

Check out this link. The post by 3kushn about stepping into the shot really helped me rethink my approach to the shot, and I have stuck with in for over a year now, and it has really helped.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=33008

Blackjack · Dec 9, 2007

Here is an old thread from 2003.

Old thread about Stance

Wedge · Dec 9, 2007

Stance DVD

Check out Bert Kinisters DVD " The Stance of the Worlds Top Shot Shotmakers...Vol 70". It shows in depth the correct stance used by top snooker players...a very tough game where you really need to be in line with your shots. You won't be sorry. Try ebay or a search on the internet for the DVD.

henho · Dec 9, 2007

There is a lot of good information on getting into your stance, check out the intro section in Phil Capelle's books. I would like to add two things: if its not working for you, move around and change things, be willing to experiment, until you find something that works. Also, your stroke is a large part of your stance. When you are experimenting, don't only shift your feet and body weight, but also move where your body is relative to the cue and your stroking arm, moving it closer or farther away from your body.

Scaramouche · Dec 9, 2007

jdsons · Dec 9, 2007

Wow

Wow guys. Looks like I have some homework. Give me a few weeks and I will be an expert. Keep it coming.

jdsons

Neil · Dec 9, 2007

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jdsons · Dec 10, 2007

Thanks all.

Thank you everyone who posted,

Sorry for the delay. I gave many of you rep "points", hopefully I did it correctly, my first time.

I adjusted my christmas list for many of the suggestions here.

Neil: You hit the nail on the head. My stroke is "one piece". My stance is connected to my stroke, connected to my aim, connected to my speed and success. Once my stance to corrected I expect great things. I wish I could just plop down on the line. Maybe, I think about it to much.

I attempted lessons from different instructors, and was told many different things. A successful player/coach told me "don't worry about it." Maybe he is right. I tried, and can't stop thinking about it. I am going to start from the beginning and see what happens. I am determined to solve this problem, with all my pool resources/time. This information is the right beginning.

jdsons.

jdsons · Dec 10, 2007

Wedge said:
Check out Bert Kinisters DVD " The Stance of the Worlds Top Shot Shotmakers...Vol 70". It shows in depth the correct stance used by top snooker players...a very tough game where you really need to be in line with your shots. You won't be sorry. Try ebay or a search on the internet for the DVD.

According to a friend, Kinister had an early DVD on stance. He can't remember which one it is. Can anyone help me???

jdsons

Neil · Dec 10, 2007

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Klopek · Dec 10, 2007

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kildegirl · Dec 10, 2007

Pool

jdsons said:
I did a search and was unable to find anything on stance.

Stance for me is a BIG struggle for two years. I have tried several and can not get confortable. I am open to any suggestions from ball bangers to pros. If this subject has been posted in depth, please post a link to the information.

If there are websits, videos, ect...that helped you and you think it could help me (others) let us know.

thanks for your time,
jdsons

CALL ME AT 484 623 4144, I AM IN PA. YOU MAY TALK AS LONG AS YOU LIKE. I WILL WILL PICK UP THE TAB. MY NAME IS HAL HOULE. ASK ANYTHING IN POOL, STANCE IS NOT A PROBLEM. I WILL ALSO TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW TOP PRO PLAYERS AIM AND POCKET BALLS, AND THEIR BANKING METHODS.

jdsons · Dec 10, 2007

kildegirl said:
CALL ME AT 484 623 4144, I AM IN PA. YOU MAY TALK AS LONG AS YOU LIKE. I WILL WILL PICK UP THE TAB. MY NAME IS HAL HOULE. ASK ANYTHING IN POOL, STANCE IS NOT A PROBLEM. I WILL ALSO TELL YOU EXACTLY HOW TOP PRO PLAYERS AIM AND POCKET BALLS, AND THEIR BANKING METHODS.[/QUOTE

Thanks you, and I will take you up on it, tomorrow. I will respect the the time difference. Now I have two flag football games (my 9 and 11 year old). Playoff depend on tonight.

jdsons

P.S. azbilliards members are the best. Who ever said pool players are shady was not a member of this forum.

jdsons · Dec 10, 2007

Klopek said:
The biggest struggle people often have is trying to take on a stance their body just can't accept. Maybe they see a favorite pro standing that way and emulate that stance, but body types often decide the correct stance above what textbooks say.

All you have to do is look at Earl Strickland or Keith McCready to know that comfort is the most important ingredient to success, not appearance. If you have a textbook perfect stance but you're twisted up like a pretzel, you won't be able to play with confidence. Pain can also develop.

Next time you're at the table, get your upper body into alignment with the cue set where you see center. Bend over and just let your feet go where they want to go in order to keep balanced and free of tension. Relax your knees and you'll really see where the balance is. Good luck.

Good point,

That has been part of my struggle. textbook verses "what feels good." I alway thought textbook was the best, I have been wrong in the past.

jdsons.

Patrick Johnson · Dec 10, 2007

Of course it's most important to have a comfortable stance that works for you, but that doesn't mean you should make up something from scratch. The "standard" stance is the standard for a reason, and it's worthwhile to learn it and use it if it's comfortable for you.

But the devil's in the details, and it's important to have the details of your stance fine tuned for you. So rather than letting the pre-shot routine (the steps and motions you use to get into your stance) dictate all the details of your stance for you, spend some time trying variations to find your optimum combination.

The main details you might want to vary are the positions of your feet, hips, shoulders, head, elbow and bridge arm. The goal is a still, comfortable stance naturally conducive to an effortless straight stroke in line with your sight.

Try some unstructured shooting, letting your stance adjust itself and just concentrating on making balls and getting position. When you're feeling comfortable and accurate, notice if your feet/hips are more "open" or "closed" than usual, if your elbow is closer or farther from your body, if your head and shoulders are at their usual angles to the shot. It might be worth incorporating one or more of these changes into your "standard" stance (and pre-shot routine).

pj
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kildegirl · Dec 19, 2007

pool

jdsons said:
I did a search and was unable to find anything on stance.

Stance for me is a BIG struggle for two years. I have tried several and can not get confortable. I am open to any suggestions from ball bangers to pros. If this subject has been posted in depth, please post a link to the information.

If there are websits, videos, ect...that helped you and you think it could help me (others) let us know.

thanks for your time,
jdsons

call me at 484 623 4144

hal houle

Fatboy · Dec 19, 2007

Scaramouche said:
Lots of stuff on stance buried in thse clips.

Check out Jack Karnehm and Steve Davis first

Snooker Coaching by Terry Griffiths
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAGYPZGrDO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b258oq0r6U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6tTfIVzG9w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WLrOl6vzwY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loJTJXHvaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OmB2jybAXA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOl0MAKr278

Ray Reardon Coaching Master Series
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m20ixHp-VZw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEfpzRgONzU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiO7-AQkmLk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQQdTkybJ34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnSp1YnemSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXrhLyZ14gA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmzZSUgeoUo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkXND8LK5D8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKEbP2kEr8o

Understanding Modern Snooker - Jack Karnehm
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v2dQfwYIAw
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE0PQBY6d0Q
Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sttfG5StNE
Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoTCoCR_Ysk
Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJfHoXnUIiI
Part 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8D8ZcWuiGE
Part 7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCwquMHaI5E
Part 8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6vrkz0zvT4
Part 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm6gnu0oioM
Part 10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSDhurY1APA
Part 11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5cAtxVDF2I
Part 12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPg1neRJmXI
Part 13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYO-Acw1QAU
Part 14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-dQJfFU6dE
Paart 15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWQgCxHLIB4
Part 16
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aayiShDGiEs
Part 17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnVWAMXFsqE
Part 18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD9oSAicPbI

Snooker - Champions Way With Steve Davis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8JxEFj2-aw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwmXqZqdis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7PLst6aZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8uzDaJA72k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5A7Ru5buA4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm89GZQrnHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s90yKP45FJ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE87mfcEJKM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3GtPgU8lAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sae8MPh-Huo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vyt2ST3Kyw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ8JLnnQdX4

i think you missed a few, can you please be more complete next post.

Fatboy · Dec 19, 2007

i never had any proper instruction in the begginning of my pool play days, it took me along time to get it right it stil changes a little now and then.

Sev · Dec 19, 2007

jdsons said:
According to a friend, Kinister had an early DVD on stance. He can't remember which one it is. Can anyone help me???

jdsons

"Mastering the Fundamentals", I believe.

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