Any tricks to useing superglue as finish over a linen wraped cue to make it feel like a wrapless...
I agree with Dave but you can use a business card a couple of inches at a time to feed your curiosity.
A very important trick is to use a heavy-duty respirator or hazmat suit and have TONS of airflow and ventilation.
Cyanoacrylate is incredibly poisonous
Chris hit it on the head. Epoxy coat first and then CA. I did CA finishing wrong for quite a while and was fortunate enough to get a lesson on the correct methods by Eric Crisp.After talking to him about why he uses the methods he does related to the health risk concerns, I did a LOT of research, experimentation and trial and error. Here's what I found incorrect in my process.
1) I was using a BS Thin (as was recommended by several pen turners) which dries too quickly, picks up too much moister from the air VERY quickly, smokes with very little heat (friction) and doesn't apply easily. It can be used as a base coat I'm finding though (I needed to find something to do with it since I had spent $40 on a giant bottle after all.)
2) I was using a paper towel (WORST IDEA EVERRRRRR) which is a messy process at best. Super glue smokes when it gets to a certain heat level. It OFF GASSES at a completely different heat level and that level can only be achieved by use of something like a butane torch. It SEEMS that the thinner the glue, the faster it heats and hence the faster it fumes. Obviously spinning a cue on a lathe and applying friction with a paper towel is just enough to cause the said reaction. It's an irritant to the mucous membranes. Does it give off Cyanide gas? Sort of. Ethyl Cyanide is not the same thing as Potassium Cyanide. I wouldn't use either one as a mouthwash but Ethyl Cyanide is NOT going to make you foam at the mouth and die like a James Bond villain.
3) I wasn't using gloves which caused multiple issues. It's odd how sometimes we fall back into old habits. I didn't use them in drum building until one of my friends got blood poisoning from the poisons in certain finishes. Add to that I was using a paper towel which was now heating up like fire due to the flashing effect of the heptane (accelerator) and here I was running around the shop with pieces of flaming hot super glue soaked paper towel on my hands.
4) No true constant ventilation. Eric showed me his ventilation set up on his finishing lathe. I immediately stored the mental picture and built pretty much the exact same setup. I know it doesn't exactly take Wile E Coyote (Super Genius) to build one...but let's face it, I've married 4 red heads....I'm far from genius.
5) I had NO CLUE how to use accelerator correctly in finishing. The pen turners of the world have a wonderful craft and turn out some really cool stuff. But their techniques are based around a 5-7" x 1/2" pen...not a 29" x .84-1.25" cue butt. You just can't use the same techniques.
The stuff is a pain. That being said, if done correctly, it is a viable finish which polishes very well, goes on quickly and has durability qualities FAR beyond what people may believe. Should it be used as a primary finish? Meh...that really depends on the person. There are inherent little things that I've had to reach out for help on or figure out for myself. Welcome to our craft I guess.
Chris hit it on the head. Epoxy coat first and then CA. I did CA finishing wrong for quite a while and was fortunate enough to get a lesson on the correct methods by Eric Crisp.After talking to him about why he uses the methods he does related to the health risk concerns, I did a LOT of research, experimentation and trial and error. Here's what I found incorrect in my process.
1) I was using a BS Thin (as was recommended by several pen turners) which dries too quickly, picks up too much moister from the air VERY quickly, smokes with very little heat (friction) and doesn't apply easily. It can be used as a base coat I'm finding though (I needed to find something to do with it since I had spent $40 on a giant bottle after all.)
2) I was using a paper towel (WORST IDEA EVERRRRRR) which is a messy process at best. Super glue smokes when it gets to a certain heat level. It OFF GASSES at a completely different heat level and that level can only be achieved by use of something like a butane torch. It SEEMS that the thinner the glue, the faster it heats and hence the faster it fumes. Obviously spinning a cue on a lathe and applying friction with a paper towel is just enough to cause the said reaction. It's an irritant to the mucous membranes. Does it give off Cyanide gas? Sort of. Ethyl Cyanide is not the same thing as Potassium Cyanide. I wouldn't use either one as a mouthwash but Ethyl Cyanide is NOT going to make you foam at the mouth and die like a James Bond villain.
3) I wasn't using gloves which caused multiple issues. It's odd how sometimes we fall back into old habits. I didn't use them in drum building until one of my friends got blood poisoning from the poisons in certain finishes. Add to that I was using a paper towel which was now heating up like fire due to the flashing effect of the heptane (accelerator) and here I was running around the shop with pieces of flaming hot super glue soaked paper towel on my hands.
4) No true constant ventilation. Eric showed me his ventilation set up on his finishing lathe. I immediately stored the mental picture and built pretty much the exact same setup. I know it doesn't exactly take Wile E Coyote (Super Genius) to build one...but let's face it, I've married 4 red heads....I'm far from genius.
5) I had NO CLUE how to use accelerator correctly in finishing. The pen turners of the world have a wonderful craft and turn out some really cool stuff. But their techniques are based around a 5-7" x 1/2" pen...not a 29" x .84-1.25" cue butt. You just can't use the same techniques.
The stuff is a pain. That being said, if done correctly, it is a viable finish which polishes very well, goes on quickly and has durability qualities FAR beyond what people may believe. Should it be used as a primary finish? Meh...that really depends on the person. There are inherent little things that I've had to reach out for help on or figure out for myself. Welcome to our craft I guess.
What terrifies me is wearing gloves anywhere near a lathe. I've heard, read, and seen some horrific accidents caused by gloves or clothing caught on a lathe, mill and drill press, disc sander... Don't. Do. It.
Wearing gloves/jewelry, No face shields, no dust collection systems.... did I miss anything. I was married to Godzilla...I'm not exactly mensa.
Any tricks to useing superglue as finish over a linen wraped cue to make it feel like a wrapless...
Wear a respirator and ventilate the room. We don't want to read about you in the obituaries.