Turning Stone - rip off

[Black-Balled]

I see and agree with your point however would that not be considered price gouging and be illegal? Point being Mike is not price gouging nope doing anything Illegal.

I believe that is the definition of it, from a legal perspective.

 

[Black-Balled]

Ever been in one? You now live in the tornado capital of the world, OkC. Wait til you wake-up(hopefully) and your s^*t is scattered for a couple miles. You won't complain one bit. Most places are cool and don't do it but at that point you really don't care.

Or...
Hmmmmph

 

[watchez]

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JAM - on the Golden Tee forum site, once a thread gets to 10 pages, the unwritten rule is that people can post porn as a distraction. You might want to try that instead of prairie dogs. :grin:

 

[watchez]

He isn't double dipping though. He is not getting two entry fees for one spot. It isn't an entry fee if a person isn't playing (an entry fee requires an entrant) and so you have to stop thinking of it as an entry fee at that point because it no longer is. It is now simply unused money. That unused money can either go back to the player in the form of a refund, or if there is a fine for withdrawals, it can be applied to that. In this case there is a fine for withdrawals and so that unused money gets applied to the withdrawal fine. And of course Mike should sell the entry spot that is now open, unused, and unpaid for.

All Mike is doing is charging a $200 fine for withdrawals to discourage people from signing up if they are not serious and committed, and to reduce the chances that players he advertised as being in the field don't end up playing, and for his hassle in having to deal with the substitutions. Now whether we like this policy or not is largely personal preference and opinion, and whether it is the best policy or not is debatable and depends on whose perspective you are looking at it from and who you are hoping to benefit, but it isn't double dipping, it isn't dishonest or unethical, and he does have some compelling and good reasons for doing it this way.

So his flier says $200 withdrawal fee. You can't be serious with this post thinking that when a player hands over $200 it is not an entry fee.

Again - as I said earlier - the tournament director merely facilitates the payouts of the entry fees as part of his duties. He doesn't have any right to this money, under any circumstance. It was or is not ever his money. It is the players money.

 

[JAM]

JAM - on the Golden Tee forum site, once a thread gets to 10 pages, the unwritten rule is that people can post porn as a distraction. You might want to try that instead of prairie dogs. :grin:

An Orgy, just for you. :thumbup:

 

[PRED]

An Orgy, just for you. :thumbup:

That's more of a wife swap. An orgy needs 10+ participants. And no limp junk complaining about the cover charge.

 

[Poolplaya9]

I believe that is the definition of it, from a legal perspective.

For legal purposes I think it is often required to be done in reaction to something, like say a hurricane, and it is often required to be regarding things that are considered essential to life, such as food or gas. Mike's policy is not in reaction to any short term occurrences, and his tournament certainly isn't essential to life.

 

[Poolplaya9]

You can't be serious with this post thinking that when a player hands over $200 it is not an entry fee.

Every player hands over the $200 knowing and agreeing that it is an entry fee is they end up playing, and a withdrawal fee if they end up not playing.

 

[DelawareDogs]

I will tell you the difference between what mike does and what is shady...unethical and a rip off. When 9/11 occurred fuel prices tripled in a matter of hours. Now that my friends was shady...unethical and a rip off. Many station owners took advantage and profited off of the panic and fear that ensued that day after the plane crashes.[/QUOTE]

Possibly so, but your blame is directed at the wrong place. Market speculation pushed the prices up, not at all to do with station owners. They're not paying more for it and keeping the price the same on the street. That's called giving away money........which isn't in the "keeping a business afloat for dummies" rule book.

 

[Nick B]

An Orgy, just for you. :thumbup:

Ummmm sorry young lady. That's a foursome. Orgies start at seven or more.

 

[pt109]

At least ten times since I started playing pool tournaments, I have not played after I paid
my entry fee.....sometimes a priority thing, sometimes a missed plane, sometimes I just
didn't feel like playing on that date.
I never found out if there was a refund policy for those entries...I didn't care.

pt....not everyone's a nit

 

[DelawareDogs]

At least ten times since I started playing pool tournaments, I have not played after I paid
my entry fee.....sometimes a priority thing, sometimes a missed plane, sometimes I just
didn't feel like playing on that date.
I never found out if there was a refund policy for those entries...I didn't care.

pt....not everyone's a nit

Savage Level 9000

 

[cleary]

At least ten times since I started playing pool tournaments, I have not played after I paid
my entry fee.....sometimes a priority thing, sometimes a missed plane, sometimes I just
didn't feel like playing on that date.
I never found out if there was a refund policy for those entries...I didn't care.

pt....not everyone's a nit

Not everyone is flaky af either. You seem like you have commitment issues. But hey, at least you're not nitty! #thumbsup

 

[Eric.]

Ever been in one? You now live in the tornado capital of the world, OkC. Wait til you wake-up(hopefully) and your s^*t is scattered for a couple miles. You won't complain one bit. Most places are cool and don't do it but at that point you really don't care.

How is a tornado like a divorce?

In the beginning, there's a lot of blowing and sucking and in the end....somebody loses a house!


Eric >nothings changed 'round AZB...

 

[cookie man]

JAM - on the Golden Tee forum site, once a thread gets to 10 pages, the unwritten rule is that people can post porn as a distraction. You might want to try that instead of prairie dogs. :grin:

How many people googled Golden Tee Forum because of this post lol