Billiards bridge vs Snooker bridge?

TheThaiger said:
I thought Wity comment was mildy amusing, as was your repost. To perhaps explain his comment from a british point of view, beginners and girls play with a closed bridge, as they find it easier to keep the cue going through on a straight line. It's a common way to spot someone that'll be no danger to you when you play them. Almost all of us will have grown up playing pub pool, with a 'winner stays on' format. Plenty of drunks will play with a closed bridge, too.
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I'd like to speak up for Wity here also.
His posts can be a bit brusque but he's a good guy.
I rarely agree with him about cues or playing styles....
...but when I asked for his help concerning a friend of mine who wanted
a particular cue...Wity went the extra mile for me.

..and I like his sense of humor...he'd be a good guy to have a pint with.
 
Thaiger, I don't understand how you can type
In other words, do what works for you, but don't force it upon other people.
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and at the same time state that my point was nonsense.

What you have said in brief (see quote) is the very essence of what I was suggesting.

I suppose I would have to be British to understand you.

In any case, I would love to be able to play you few frames of snooker on a nice Riley (or similar) 6x12. You could be humored by my "technique".
 
Underclocked said:
Thaiger, I don't understand how you can type and at the same time state that my point was nonsense.

What you have said in brief (see quote) is the very essence of what I was suggesting.

I suppose I would have to be British to understand you.

In any case, I would love to be able to play you few frames of snooker on a nice Riley (or similar) 6x12. You could be humored by my "technique".
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Rich...they have finally got to you.
'FRAMES'??????
'Framed' is what happened when you are unjustly incarcerated.
...this is 'GAMES' Mister

btw..I tend to agree with you...nobody else can look down your cue
 
TheThaiger said:
I thought Wity comment was mildy amusing, as was your repost. To perhaps explain his comment from a british point of view, beginners and girls play with a closed bridge, as they find it easier to keep the cue going through on a straight line. It's a common way to spot someone that'll be no danger to you when you play them. Almost all of us will have grown up playing pub pool, with a 'winner stays on' format. Plenty of drunks will play with a closed bridge, too.

Rightly or wrongly (rightly IMO) people playing with a closed bridge are considered non players over here. People are confusing cultural and scientific approaches to the game on this one. It is cultural for Americans to play with a closed bridge. It is scientific for the rest of us to play with an open one, because, simply put, it is the most effective in terms of fundamentals. When someone wins the snooker world championships with a closed bridge, I'll eat my words. Any bridge will suffice in pool.
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Foot, meet mouth.

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Tang Hoa plays all three at a very high speed. Pagulayan is also a nutcase snooker player. But if you put all your snooker champions and all your billiards champs on a pool table, you will find that....pool players look better getting down on the ball.
 
C.Milian said:
Tang Hoa plays all three at a very high speed. Pagulayan is also a nutcase snooker player. But if you put all your snooker champions and all your billiards champs on a pool table, you will find that....pool players look better getting down on the ball.
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Of course! It's silly of some people to believe that a top snooker or billiard player could walk into any tournament and dominate. It presumes pro pool players are bunch of recreational bar bangers that get scared of 4 feet of extra cloth between the cue ball and object ball. Lots of pro pool players can pot them from the lampshades, snooker players only look that much better on the pool table because they have to do it more often, but there are plenty of examples out there of top snooker players looking pretty vulnerable.
 
I think Dr Dave's article is completely sound.

I mostly use an open bridge, and my stance has my chin on the cue, extemely low. Most players I see using mostly a closed bridge have a higher stance than most players I see using an open bridge.
 
Underclocked said:
The "break" leaves me totally confused. :grin:
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Yeah, a 'break' equals our 'run'.....I guess if you 'break and run' in Britain,
it means quit a winner.:smile:

...and a 'bank' is called a 'double'
..sooo, I asked what a 'double bank' was called...umm, a 'double-double'?
..sooo, a '3 in the side'?...oh, that's a 'cocked hat double':yikes:

..sooo, a '5 in the corner'?....ummm, dunno

a 'side pocket' is the 'middle bag'

...had a lot of fun in the UK...London is like any other big city...gotta keep
your wits about you.....but out where London is known as 'the big smoke'
the people are warm, friendly, and helpful.
...and you can get used to an 'elevator' being a 'lift'...and a 'ground wire'
being an 'earth wire'

guess it helps having some Yorkshire ancestors
 
Cameron Smith said:
Of course! It's silly of some people to believe that a top snooker or billiard player could walk into any tournament and dominate. It presumes pro pool players are bunch of recreational bar bangers that get scared of 4 feet of extra cloth between the cue ball and object ball. Lots of pro pool players can pot them from the lampshades, snooker players only look that much better on the pool table because they have to do it more often, but there are plenty of examples out there of top snooker players looking pretty vulnerable.
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I notice the A players don't worry about making balls. It's their cueball that keeps me in the chair 3-4 games. I know a guy that plays all games well and he has a monster bridge. Absolute beast. On the billiards table, he had to cut the ball from end rail to end rail thin enough to keep it within a half diamond of right side of the long rail. If I shoot it, there is no way I can hold the rock within a diamonds width. Actually he kept it about quarter diamond. He sent the cueball from endrail to endrail five times in a row in pratice mode like it was nothing. You need his bridge to do this. Anything an open bridge specialist can do, I'm sure he can.

I don't know his speed but he says he can get down on the snooker table too. Most of the guys from his era all play with a closed bridge. All the guys that play all game.
 
pt109 said:
Yeah, a 'break' equals our 'run'.....I guess if you 'break and run' in Britain,
it means quit a winner.:smile:

...and a 'bank' is called a 'double'
..sooo, I asked what a 'double bank' was called...umm, a 'double-double'?
..sooo, a '3 in the side'?...oh, that's a 'cocked hat double':yikes:

..sooo, a '5 in the corner'?....ummm, dunno

a 'side pocket' is the 'middle bag'

...had a lot of fun in the UK...London is like any other big city...gotta keep
your wits about you.....but out where London is known as 'the big smoke'
the people are warm, friendly, and helpful.
...and you can get used to an 'elevator' being a 'lift'...and a 'ground wire'
being an 'earth wire'

guess it helps having some Yorkshire ancestors
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'Appen, although my Yorkshire ancestors are unlikely to agree with your assessment of Londoners, who are widely despised by the rest of the country for being arrogant, rude, unfriendly and unhelpful. London is seen as being as alien to the rest of the UK as Paris or Berlin.

Oh, and a cocked hat is 3 cushion double - so, side cushion, top cushion, opposite side cushion and into the middle bag. If you trace the path of the ball, it resembles a cocked hat.
 
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C.Milian said:
I notice the A players don't worry about making balls. It's their cueball that keeps me in the chair 3-4 games. I know a guy that plays all games well and he has a monster bridge. Absolute beast. On the billiards table, he had to cut the ball from end rail to end rail thin enough to keep it within a half diamond of right side of the long rail. If I shoot it, there is no way I can hold the rock within a diamonds width. Actually he kept it about quarter diamond. He sent the cueball from endrail to endrail five times in a row in pratice mode like it was nothing. You need his bridge to do this. Anything an open bridge specialist can do, I'm sure he can.

I don't know his speed but he says he can get down on the snooker table too. Most of the guys from his era all play with a closed bridge. All the guys that play all game.
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What's a monster bridge? Do you just mean he cues well, and, as such, it wouldn't really matter whether it was open or closed?
 
TheThaiger said:
'Appen, although my Yorkshire ancestors are unlikely to agree with your assessment of Londoners, who are widely despised by the rest of the country for being arrogant, rude, unfriendly and unhelpful. London is seen as being as alien to the rest of the UK as Paris or Berlin.

Oh, and a cocked hat is 3 cushion double - so, side cushion, top cushion, opposite side cushion and into the middle bag. If you trace the path of the ball, it resembles a cocked hat.
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I might have phrased it better.. but we agree on London.

The people I referred to as warm, friendly, and helpful were NOT in London, they were the ones CALLING it the 'Big Smoke'....and they
would quite agree with your assessment, as would I.

London wasn't too bad in 1980, but the last time I was there (1995)..
..I walked with an 'attitude'....as in 'find someone softer':frown:
 
gromulan said:
It will be a lot harder to yawn with your foot buried in your mouth like that, considering Joe Davis held the world championships for TWENTY YEARS and used a closed bride.
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You missed the reason for my edit then?

:rolleyes:


I think he only used the closed bridge for deep screw shots, popular with those that lift their cue on follow-through (see post about Neil Robertson above). A perfect stroke renders the closed bridge unnecessary. Get over it.
 
TheThaiger said:
I think he only used the closed bridge for deep screw shots, popular with those that lift their cue on follow-through (see post about Neil Robertson above). A perfect stroke renders the closed bridge unnecessary. Get over it.
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Yes, Joe Davis recommended the closed bridge deep 'screw'....as do I.

But you know what bothers me?
In my day, John Spencer was the best of the British power 'draw' players,
and he was in awe of Bill Werbeniuk, who was the best I've ever seen at
those shots.
..and they both used the open bridge...:angry:
Why couldn't they cooperate with my theory?:confused:
 
TheThaiger said:
What's a monster bridge? Do you just mean he cues well, and, as such, it wouldn't really matter whether it was open or closed?
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It matters. The entire world of pool as you know it is turned upside down when you reach a point of realization that only can be done using a closed bridge. CUEING WELL, to me means moving the rock in every way possible. The gateway is closed to all players without a proper bridge.

Monster bridges: Mizerak, KMC, Efren, Alcano, SVB, Cecil mutha****in tugwell, the mechanic, DS, cole dickson,

get all these guys down on the table. Actually there is a recent thread of a photo of cecil playing lefty. Just look at it...its a monster.
 
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