hey Neil...
Amazing how many people are against government control, but jump right on the bandwagon. You people have been sold a bad bill of goods, and vocally support the garbage you have been fed. When will you understand that it is all about control??? The smoking bans worked, that is, they got them passed, now they are going after smoking in ones own home or vehicle. There is no doubt they will get that passed also. Seat belts and helmets worked, so they went after smoking. That passed, now they are after salt and snack drinks and actually just being overweight.
They (gov) can and do make their studies read any way they want to with very little real fact thrown in there. And you people eat it up like a bunch of lap dogs. Try doing some searches by institutes that are not fed gov. money to reach a certain conclusion. The findings will be so out of wack from the the gov. studies that most of you will flat out dismiss them.
You all claim second hand smoke is so bad. Did you even know that you have to be in a small bar with very heavy smoke in it for 48 hours straight to even get the same effect as smoking ONE cigarette? I will agree that to a non-smoker the smell is awful. But, that is as far as it goes. Studies have shown that there is NO ill effects from second hand smoke unless you already have breathing problems or allergies to it. The cancer rates in other countries that don't ban smoking are far lower than here. There is a reason we get more cancer than anyone other country, and the gov. is blaming smoking to cover up the real reasons. They have done such a good job at it that hardly anyone even considers studying other reasons.
Can't smoke in your car, but it's perfectly fine and acceptable to drive with your windows down and breathe all that exhaust that kills plants along the roadways and turns snow black. Yeah, right...... Start getting informed people, and stop following the gov. agenda for you. All I ask of anyone is to actually think and not be a bunch of spoonfed sheeple.
I have severe COPD. I have smoked for 44 years. When I first went to my doctor about it and had tests run, ect., she flat out stated that I was too young yet for smoking to have any effect on my breathing. Tests and past history showed that my lungs have severe scarring from decades of getting bronchitis. Each time you get it, you get some scarring. I was also poisoned to very near death from Isocyanate. Today, all that is in my medical charts is that I smoked. Dr. following her mandates.
When I was in the hospital emergency room for the isocyanate poisoning, the FIRST thing the doc. did was fill out a form asking about if I smoked, or was ever around anyone that smoked. That way, everything was attributed to smoking for their "studies". When I asked the doc. about it, he said he was against it, but he was forced to fill out the forms. It was a breathing problem I had, so before anything, he had to fill out the gov. forms. There was no place on the forms for what the actual problem with my breathing was. EVERYTHING related to breathing problems is now associated with smoking, whether real or not. Works out real well for the gov. stats. Blame everything on smoking, and they don't have to look for the real problems, and get to control the people. Win win for the gov.
just fyi [as others are just well... i won't say or Mr. Wilson will reprimand me, or, worse...
THE RAT EXPERIMENTS [and this was a TEST OF SUGAR on Health!!]
Paul Stitt wrote about an experiment conducted by a cereal company in which four sets of rats were given special diets. One group received plain whole wheat, water and synthetic vitamins and minerals. A second group received puffed wheat (an extruded cereal), water and the same nutrient solution. A third set was given water and white sugar. A fourth set was given nothing but water and chemical nutrients. The rats which received the whole wheat lived over a year on this diet. The rats that got nothing but water and vitamins lived about two months. The animals on a white sugar and water diet lived about a month. The company's own laboratory study showed that the rats given the vitamins, water and all the puffed wheat they wanted died within two weeks---they died before the rats that got no food at all. It wasn't a matter of the rats dying of malnutrition. Results like these suggested that there was something actually very toxic in the puffed wheat itself! Proteins are very similar to certain toxins in molecular structure, and the pressure of the puffing process may produce chemical changes, which turn a nutritious grain into a poisonous substance.
Another unpublished experiment was carried out in 1960. Researchers at Ann Arbor University were given 18 laboratory rats. They were divided into three groups: one group received corn flakes and water; a second group was given the cardboard box that the Cornflakes came in and water; the control group received rat chow and water. The rats in the control group remained in good health throughout the experiment. The rats eating the box became lethargic and eventually died of malnutrition. The rats receiving the Cornflakes and water died before the rats that were eating the box! But before death, the Cornflakes rats developed schizophrenic behaviour, threw fits, bit each other and finally went into convulsions. Autopsy revealed dysfunction of the pancreas, liver and kidneys and degeneration of the nerves of the spine, all signs of insulin shock. The startling conclusion of this study is that there was more nourishment in the box than there was in the Cornflakes. This experiment was actually designed as a joke, but the results were far from funny. The results were never published and similar studies have not been conducted.
Most of America eats this kind of cereal. In fact, the USDA is gloating over the fact that children today get the vast majority of their important nutrients from the nutrients added to these boxed cereals. Many of them are at least 50% sugar; but there are many so-called health food cereals sold in the health food stores, and they are made by the same method. They use whole grains and they may use better quality sweeteners, but they are made by the same method. It may come as a shock to you, but these whole grain extruded cereals are probably more dangerous, because they are higher in protein and it is the proteins in these cereals that are so denatured by this type of processing.
and that was only a test on "REFINED SUGAR" WHICH WE ALL HAVE DAILY.
and most do not know that most of the 20 CANCER CAUSING AGENTS out of they say 4,000 chemicals in 'smoking' come from the burning of PROCESSED SUGAR. did you ever eat creme brulee or a roasted marshmallow?
here are some of the chemicals in PROCESSED SUGAR:
QEMICIDE DTC-35
Mill Sanitation Biocide - DTC
EPA, FDA
QEMIQUAT 3050
Mill Sanitation Biocide - QUAT
EPA, FDA
QEMIFLOC VH 1007
Juice Clarification Flocculant
FDA, KOSHER
QEMIFLOC AP 273
Juice Clarification Flocculant
FDA, KOSHER
QEMIFLOC VH 1001
Juice Clarification Flocculant
FDA
QEMIDESCAL 900
Evaporator Scale Inhibitor / antiscalant
FDA
QEMICORR IN-3
Corrosion Inhibitor for HCl
QEMI PH 14
Caustic based Evaporator Cleaning Additive
QEMIDESCAL 977
Evaporator Descaling - Special Compound
QEMICLAR VLC
Syrup Decolorizing Agent (polymer)
FDA, KOSHER
QEMITREAT SEP
Syrup Decolorizing Agent (polymer)
FDA, KOSHER
QEMIBIOSURF 7150
Syrup Decolorizing Agent (polymer)
FDA, NSF
QEMIFLOC AH 1000
Syrup Clarification Flocculant
FDA, KOSHER
QEMIFLOC AH 1010
Syrup Clarification Flocculant
FDA, KOSHER
QEMIFLOC AH 1032
Syrup Clarification Flocculant
FDA, KOSHER
QEMIPAN AID
Crystallizing /Vacuum Pan Aid
FDA
QEMISURF 44
Crystallizing /Vacuum Pan Aid
FDA, KOSHER
QEMI CB-6
Crystallizing /Vacuum Pan Aid
FDA
QEMI DF 8243
Syrup Defoamer - Silicone Based
FDA
QEMI DF 230 FG
Syrup Defoamer - Silicone Based
FDA, KOSHER
QEMI DF 8121
Juice Defoamer - Organic Based
FDA
QEMI DF 8322
Alcohol Defoamer - Organic Based
FDA
QEMIBIOSURF 7150
Dextran Control - Bio-Surfactant
FDA, NSF
QEMIZYME DX
Dextran Control - Dextranase (Dextran free)
QEMIZYME AAM
Starch Control - Alpha Amylase (Licuamil L340)
QEMIZYME AAM TS
Starch Control - Alpha Amylase (Thermozyme L340)
AND THOSE ABOVE ARE JUST ADDITIVES TO PROCESS SUGAR!!
and those are from a sugar processing chemical supplier.
did any of you ever eat real sugar cane??
i do not smoke, normally.
i smoke a cigar sometimes. the last time was after a great meal at a great restaurant's dinner, and that will be 2 years on Feb. 27 this year. but i still love a great cigar.
besides, i wish that folks did not smoke. and i really do not like anyone infringing on another. that said, i think we all need to get along and not be known as what a 'south ends of a horse traveling north' implies...
but in life, you have to expect a lot os those south ends being around...
tks for your post,
smokey
(love you JoeyA).
