At Stan Shuffett's house.

[phdaughter]

I have been here for three days training. This man is a national treasure when it comes to pool instruction.

Not only does he tell he shows. What Andi and I have witnessed these past days has been nothing short of incredible.

My game is at least one to two balls better already.

Right now I am practicing some of what I have learned on the immaculate ten footer. This is Stan's sanctuary and I am listening to Roseanne Cash on some of the best equipment built.

This has been a great journey to the big match and it's experiences like this that are worth much more than money. Stan loves pool and it is a joy to be around him. Stan is giving my road partner Andi a lesson in the training room with another perfect Diamond in it.

Good Luck. - Cat Bentivegna Adami

 

[nb92]

I will go with gonads of steel. Right now Loucy can walk away and only get charged 3k. I am ready to post the whole bet plus another ten to insure he shows up.

I must say getting in the box with a player as accomplished as Lou takes some courage. I hope you both play well and the match is a good one.

Attached is Freddy the Beard and George Fels (I believe) coverage of Lou playing some straight pool --

Bob Cozzolino, IL vs Lou Figueroa, MO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jz9COFxn6c

 

[SJDinPHX]

And prove you wrong he will. I'll go out on a limb here and say that John's issue in the match -- if an issue comes up -- WON'T be "playing ability." It won't be aiming (that's for sure). Other than flaws in fundamentals (stroke hitches, etc.), it won't be hardware. It will be software (i.e. between the ears), and John quietly knows what that issue will be,

Sean

Did you say "QUIETLY" ?..Are we reading the same thread ?..Yes Sean, John has it between the ears...Its the eyes, arms, hands, nerves, and aching body, (and knowledge of the game) that will ultimately fail him ! :sorry:

 

[JB Cases]

Well John, I see you have got all the natives stirred up again. This reminds me so much, of you and JoeyA's ENDLESS and boring infomercials, on every new aiming system that came along !..This of course, got 'aiming systems' unceremoniously dumped off the main forum so you guys could (as Mike H. put it) "argue to your hearts content" without trying to impose your beliefs on the general forum population...His intentions were good, but alas, here you are again !

You and CJ have succeeded in getting it back on the main forum, (pretty much at will) by exerting your advertising dollars, to get what you want..That's understandable, AZB functions as a business, and it needs the revenue to thrive and prosper. I find it commendable, that guys like Stan S., Scott Lee, and other's, rely on word of mouth and their web sites, to let people decide if A.S. works for a person, or not. They don't feel the need, to blatantly MONOPOLIZE every single thread you are involved in, with such argumentative, boring, redundancy !

Getting back to 'the big match' I see you cleverly avoided this gentlemen's observation...Which is what I mainly base my judgement on ! ----->



You see John, no amount of lessons, or aiming systems, can compensate for your most glaring weaknesses...You just DO NOT have the touch, or the feel, to compete at the game of pool, anywhere near YOU think you do !..I hate to put it so bluntly, but thats just a fact you will eventually have to learn to live with..(possibly about March 19th, 2014 )

What is your problem? Honestly.

Can't you ever just leave something alone?

I am describing a visit with a friend and instructor and what I learned. We were having a perfectly nice discussion until you and Pat Johnson showed up. Do you walk around the pool room and butt into every conversation that has subjects you don't agree with?

 

[JB Cases]

Did you say "QUIETLY" ?..Are we reading the same thread ?..Yes Sean, John has it between the ears...Its the eyes, arms, hands, nerves, and aching body, (and knowledge of the game) that will ultimately fail him ! :sorry:

And yet I beat Lou the first and only time I ever played him.

Not bad for an APA 3.

 

[SJDinPHX]

What is your problem? Honestly. Can't you ever just leave something alone?

I am describing a visit with a friend and instructor and what I learned. We were having a perfectly nice discussion until you and Pat Johnson showed up. Do you walk around the pool room and butt into every conversation that has subjects you don't agree with?

No John, you are NOT just quietly having a "nice discussion"...You are doing what you ALWAYS do !... You are picking beefs with half the responders, and insulting Lou and I, at every opportunity...and just being 'John Barton' !

If you don't want us 'butting in', you should try and avoid some reference to one of us, in almost every post you make !..
The ratio of your posts, to ANYONE elses, http://forums.azbilliards.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=352245... should tell you something, but it never does, does it ? :sorry:

 

[sfleinen]

Did you say "QUIETLY" ?..Are we reading the same thread ?..Yes Sean, John has it between the ears...Its the eyes, arms, hands, nerves, and aching body, (and knowledge of the game) that will ultimately fail him ! :sorry:

You have it backwards, Dick. I'm saying the opposite of what you think I said. I'm not talking about the power of John's wetware. John's a smart guy for sure -- one of the smartest on here. That's not the "software" issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about certain "bugs" in the software. John knows what they are. Whether he can control them, that will be the question and determiner.

-Sean

 

[peteypooldude]

No John, you are NOT just quietly having a "nice discussion"...You are doing what you ALWAYS do !... You are picking beefs with half the responders, and insulting Lou and I, at every opportunity...and just being 'John Barton' !

If you don't want us 'butting in', you should try and avoid some reference to one of us, in almost every post you make !..
The ratio of your posts, to ANYONE elses,... should tell you something, but it never does, does it ? :sorry:

You and Lou eh????? Must be a close relationship to refer to you and he as an ..... Us

 

[SJDinPHX]

You have it backwards, Dick. I'm saying the opposite of what you think I said. I'm not talking about the power of John's wetware. John's a smart guy for sure -- one of the smartest on here. That's not the "software" issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about certain "bugs" in the software. John knows what they are. Whether he can control them, that will be the question and determiner.

-Sean

Sorry Sean...Now I am really confused !...Einstein was a LOT smarter than John Barton...But Lou probably could have
played Albert some one pocket, 15 to 3, and won easily ! ..So, whats your point ?

PS..I barely savvy software, what is 'wetware' ? Is there such a thing as 'dryware' ? I am not up on the latest 'geekspeak' :grin:

 

[SJDinPHX]

You and Lou eh????? Must be a close relationship to refer to you and he as an ..... Us

Mr Pooldude, I like to respond to everyone, but,..STOP IT, you're killing me !..Your post was just too hilarious !..:clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

PS..Much more clever than most of Barton's..:thumbup2:........(Later guy's, I'm off for my afternoon cocktails)

 

[MahnaMahna]

What is your problem? Honestly.

Can't you ever just leave something alone?

I am describing a visit with a friend and instructor and what I learned. We were having a perfectly nice discussion until you and Pat Johnson showed up. Do you walk around the pool room and butt into every conversation that has subjects you don't agree with?

Do you ever re-read the crap you spew on here? Giving advice is stupid if you can't follow it yourself.

 

[JB Cases]

Do you ever re-read the crap you spew on here? Giving advice is stupid if you can't follow it yourself.

Let me clue you in to something wahhna wahnna.....you are in a thread I started berating me and saying nothing that is related to the topic....and you want to lecture me?

Funny how so many of you are anonymous trolls.

 

[JB Cases]

No John, you are NOT just quietly having a "nice discussion"...You are doing what you ALWAYS do !... You are picking beefs with half the responders, and insulting Lou and I, at every opportunity...and just being 'John Barton' !

If you don't want us 'butting in', you should try and avoid some reference to one of us, in almost every post you make !..
The ratio of your posts, to ANYONE elses, http://forums.azbilliards.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=352245... should tell you something, but it never does, does it ? :sorry:

You came in here being negative. You and Satori/Pat Johnson and now wanna wannabe.

Take out your posts and the thread is a lot different.

 

[JB Cases]

No John, you are NOT just quietly having a "nice discussion"...You are doing what you ALWAYS do !... You are picking beefs with half the responders, and insulting Lou and I, at every opportunity...and just being 'John Barton' !

If you don't want us 'butting in', you should try and avoid some reference to one of us, in almost every post you make !..
The ratio of your posts, to ANYONE elses, http://forums.azbilliards.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=352245... should tell you something, but it never does, does it ? :sorry:

Where is the reference to you before you jumped in?

 

[JB Cases]

Until post 21 we were doing fine without you.

 

[backplaying]

My friend I will give you $1000 CASH if you can produce a video that duplicates this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A14srrn2uEg

And this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4KYhhzduhM

As long as the majority of AZB members who chime in agree that your video is uncut like Stan's are then you simply get the cash. We are not betting. You can use any method you want as long as you make legal shots with a normal table setup. I don't care how you do it. Take as much time as you need to duplicate the shots in the order shown. You must make all the shots in the same amount of tries or less than Stan did it.

Practice them off camera for as long as you need to. We will use the time of this post to determine how long it takes you to get there.

If you can easily do it in one hour then you earned $1000 for that hour. If it takes you months then at least you get the pride of showing us all that with months of practice you were finally able to do what Stan demonstrates. Maybe you will never be able to duplicate it and you will come on here to admit you're wrong.

I mean if it's all a trick and you know the trick then show us. I know the trick....it's called objective ball to ball aiming in a very specific way for the shot you want to do. Not estimating, not guessing, but a very specific set of instructions to position the body and sight the shot leading to the shooting position addressing the ball. This is a learned skill not some illusion.

It is similar to sleight of hand though in that it looks like magic to those who don't have the skills to know how it's done. Performing sleight of hand tricks is a skill as well and those who can do it well are able to amaze those who can't. And sleight of hand magicians are constantly inventing new methods to one-up their colleagues. Thus everyone in the business gets better and better and the things they do seem more and more like true wizardry. Yet, it's all simply a great amount of skill using learned methods.

So get to work and show us how easy it is.

Are you kidding? All I have to do is make the same shots with no more misses than Stan?

 

[sfleinen]

Sorry Sean...Now I am really confused !...Einstein was a LOT smarter than John Barton...But Lou probably could have
played Albert some one pocket, 15 to 3, and won easily ! ..So, whats your point ?

PS..I barely savvy software, what is 'wetware' ? Is there such a thing as 'dryware' ? I am not up on the latest 'geekspeak' :grin:

Obviously, you never served in the military, Dick. Wetware are someone's brains. No, there isn't a such thing as dryware, but I offer you a "nice try" on what you think was a pull-through insult.

And, once again, you prove you have weak wetware when you can't even get the point I was trying to make. You may have been good at reading the lines on a UPS address label, but you sure as hell suck at reading between the lines.

Not everything has to be spelled out, so I would suggest you just drop it. You don't have the wetware for it.

-Sean

 

[jburkm002]

I don't use an aiming system but I wouldn't discount the value of one. For those who shoot by feel and natural ability. How would you apply how you shoot to a player without natural abilities? I am pretty sure there are kicking systems that work. I have heard that pros don't use aiming systems. Is that because of natural ability or are they using a system unknowingly? I think for those who shoot by feel and are good players thats fine. Aiming, kicking and banking systems could help a novice player. At least give them something to learn from other than shoot by feel and practice 8 hours a day. Sure practice is important but only if your applying the proper techniques.

 

[one stroke]

What is your problem? Honestly.

Can't you ever just leave something alone?

I am describing a visit with a friend and instructor and what I learned. We were having a perfectly nice discussion until you and Pat Johnson showed up. Do you walk around the pool room and butt into every conversation that has subjects you don't agree with?

You may have some convinced its about the aiming system , but must of us know its really about you ,, if you don't have a thread on the first page you invent one ,,
I really think you and CJ have a contest going

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[JB Cases]

You may have some convinced its about the aiming system , but must of us know its really about you ,, if you don't have a thread on the first page you invent one ,,
I really think you and CJ have a contest going

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Wow, for once you're right. The thread is about ME. It's titled At Stan Shuffett's house and chronicles my experience getting instruction and coaching from one of the best in the country.

I suppose I should be flattered that I have a little gang of trolls that follows me around. You, San Jose Dick, wanna wannabe, Spimp13, and a few others who come and go. I guess that I should be honored that they spend their forum time harassing me. Think of the time we have in our lives....wouldn't it be awful if one of them had a heart and died and their last thought was of me and how they could "get" me again?

The hour starts and I post what I want - minutes later they are looking to see what I wrote that they can pick on. I guess it gratifies them that I recognize their comments and answer them. Kind of like they are validated as being important to some degree because they can say something that gets a response.

Anyway, keep it up fellas, all you do with every post is to allow me another chance to show the other readers my advertisement below. Thank you for helping my business to succeed.