whatever the situation calls for
Carbon Fiber Shafts should be Banned
- Thread starter Minnesota Phat
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whats wrong with just playing your game and not worrying about what someone else shoots with?
Dude, stop talking like this. Predator needs to sell stuff. I honestly think they should do away with any form of rules regarding any and all cues. No weight limits, no material restrictions, etc. The best player usually wins, regardless of how many or how few cues are in their bag. Fedor and I could trade cases, and he’s still killing me giving me the 4 ball.
That would take longer than 20 seconds to explain, then.
MajorMiscue
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What's wrong with keeping the CB on the table or using the playing cue? The game really is best with two people, no?
but a simple 1 rail kick with no english, just hit here johnny takes 20 seconds
MajorMiscue
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and a coach.
Ok. Clearly you’re joking. Grady released multiple hour long tapes on kicking. Who knew you could have shown us all of that in 20 seconds. You’d have saved me a lot of time and money. “Kick like Efren in 20 seconds”. 3C players would be at your doorstep.
Lol. You bring up 1 kick that comes up about 10% of the time, and that’s what you use to generalize all kicks. I love AZB.
you just made up a figure to go along with what your trying to do
10 percent, really?
Maybe at your level, angle in/angle out works for you. I usually kick with English the vast majority of the time. YMMV.
I'll totally agree that synthetics have made popping the CB in the air extremely easy. That's where it ends though. I still use a falcon jump/break as my jumper, (with phenolic tip). Not because it makes getting over a ball easy, but because I have over the years dialed in my distance/height control. The only thing more advance tech and it's users have over me is the short range hops. However those shots tend to be pure escapes and not offensive.
I applaud you for doing a mild search and discovering my name. I don't hide on the internet so no harm no foul. At least I now know you're willing to dig in a little to validate. It could very well be I have a bigger issue with jump cues then you do. I'm with Stu's opinion that jump cues should be regulated for use only on a first shot of a players inning at the table. That way they can't be used as a crutch to compensate for poor positional play. Only a means to escape snookers performed by the opponent. Which I guess is your issue with them.
It seems we also agree that both kicking and jumping have a place in the game. Where we differ seems to be more so the definitions of "good" and "easy". So although popping a ball in the air with modern equipment has gotten much easier. That same equipment doesn't perform the shot for you. Much like a LD shaft with a layered tip doesn't mean you can draw the CB a length of the table.
We’ve spoken before. You messaged me a couple of years ago on FB. I don’t hide behind a handle on here - my name is my name.
Rings a bell, but my memory isn't the best. My apologes for not recalling. I hope our exchange then was a good one. Believe it or not, I don't intend on being a dick generally...lol
lol... My handle on AZB is a running gag from my return to play at my local hall. Nobody other than those in the know would understand that 'joke'.
MajorMiscue
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The point is that jump cues dumb down the game. Any time a player encounters an obstacle ball, whether by his own poor position play or his opponents safety, if he has a jump cue that's his first choice, reach for the jump cue. He never needs to learn to kick as long as jump cues are allowed. Put him in a competition without jump cues and he's screwed.His game has been dumbed down by the "easy button" jump cue.
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I have zero hatred for any cue. I also don’t believe one skill is better than the other. What I hate, is bullshit. Kicking is hard. I’m not talking at APA 3 level. Kicking to hit, one rail, is geometry. Kicking at speed with spin? The ball hooks. It swerves. Sometimes we need that swerve to create a different angle. Same as jumping with slight masse. Sometimes you need to hook the ball. One skill is as important as another. But if someone were to say it takes the same amount of time to gain proficiency at jumping vs kicking, I’d say you’re full of it. That statement doesn’t say “jumping is easy”. It’s not. Some people could get the best jump cue, and still not have a prayer of hitting the ball. I’m not a Ko, but I jump decently well. I kick very well. And I’m still learning more kicks. Jumps, I think I’ve reached my max potential, as I’m 50, and shoulder flexibility isn’t what it once was. The one thing I don’t like about jump cues is that we don’t really get treated to a kicking battle anymore. There was a US Open match in the 90s between Sigel and Archer, and it was one of the greatest tactical matches, as the last two racks featured some of the best kicking I’ve ever seen. A modern jump cue would have ended the exchange on the first shot. That’s my only “beef” with the jump cue, and it’s a very small beef - less than the size of an ikea meatball.
I’ve been around for awhile. Know a lot of your circle. Ted H is from my hometown. Mike Leigh, Gord Baycroft, etc.. I know most people’s speed in the area. I’m from Parry Sound, originally, so I am up that way a fair amount.
I have zero hatred for any cue. I also don’t believe one skill is better than the other. What I hate, is bullshit. Kicking is hard. I’m not talking at APA 3 level. Kicking to hit, one rail, is geometry. Kicking at speed with spin? The ball hooks. It swerves. Sometimes we need that swerve to create a different angle. Same as jumping with slight masse. Sometimes you need to hook the ball. One skill is as important as another. But if someone were to say it takes the same amount of time to gain proficiency at jumping vs kicking, I’d say you’re full of it. That statement doesn’t say “jumping is easy”. It’s not. Some people could get the best jump cue, and still not have a prayer of hitting the ball. I’m not a Ko, but I jump decently well. I kick very well. And I’m still learning more kicks. Jumps, I think I’ve reached my max potential, as I’m 50, and shoulder flexibility isn’t what it once was. The one thing I don’t like about jump cues is that we don’t really get treated to a kicking battle anymore. There was a US Open match in the 90s between Sigel and Archer, and it was one of the greatest tactical matches, as the last two racks featured some of the best kicking I’ve ever seen. A modern jump cue would have ended the exchange on the first shot. That’s my only “beef” with the jump cue, and it’s a very small beef - less than the size of an ikea meatball.
He’s still not guaranteed to make the ball with a jump cue.
Incorrect. There are plenty of people that can not jump with those jump cues with synthetic tips. However, once they are taught proper fundamentals, they are then able to use the technology of the cue to jump with. I have only seen and taught that a couple hundred times.