Thoughts on The Hustler and Color of Money books?

[Chicagoplayer]

Scorsese butchered “The Color of Money.”

Lou Figueroa

Yeah, but he filmed TCOM (1986)!in my home room with almost every Chicago player used as extras, and created the second pool explosion that the pool industry rode for 25 years, just as the Hustler (1961) had done 25 years earlier so I can’t complain.

 

[evergruven]

good reading, both
many are likely aware, but for those not 'hip
tevis' pool novels began as short stories, found in various 50's/60's mags

 

[know it all]

The hustler movie by far the best ever pool movie.look at the big time stars in it too. Straight pool the best game ever to play or learn .Now it's like a dinosaur. God memories never die but time runs out.God bless you all. God bless my great friend Irving Crane .World Champion and gentleman. Rich

 

[straightline]

Waiting for the Nova version.

 

[ChrisinNC]

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As I recall TCOM book is completely different than the movie and TH movie somewhat different than the book. Both books are better than the movies and are must reads for everyone on this forum.

 

[straightline]

As I recall TCOM book is completely different than the movie and TH movie somewhat different than the book. Both books are better than the movies and are must reads for everyone on this forum.

Do you think the attentiveness paid to a novel on pool helped your game?

 

[philly]

Anybody seen the Netflix limited series "The Queens Gambit?"
That was written by Tevis too.
Anyhow I have read both books and they were great.
I have seen The Hustler and TCOM many many times.
They are still the best pool movies out there.
The Hustler outshines all of the other pool movies by far in every aspect of the game and in life.
The Hustler movie is just on an entirely different level.

Someone mentioned that both movies spurred a pool craze which they did.
My son is building a house and the basement is finished for a poolroom.
It was a priority for my son with 10 foot ceiling in the finished basement and
he just ordered a new 9 foot Diamond as he is about month away from settlement.
He ordered it from a dealer/mechanic out of Maryland who is incredibly busy as I believe all mechanics are right now.
This dealer/mechanic is sure that we are currently going through another pool Renaissance
and he has been in the business for a couple of decades.

 

[bbb]

For anyone who has not read the book the color of money it really is a must read because it’s a completely different story line then the movie

 

[bbb]

For me I think you could debate whether the hustler was a pool movie or a drama that had pool in it
jmho

 

[outrider1]

The hustler movie by far the best ever pool movie.look at the big time stars in it too. Straight pool the best game ever to play or learn .Now it's like a dinosaur. God memories never die but time runs out.God bless you all. God bless my great friend Irving Crane .World Champion and gentleman. Rich

I agree, I was born in 1963 the year it came out. But I think the COM book is just as well written by Tevish and if Scorsese had actually followed his book it would be ranked with the Hustler, a classic. The pictures of Vince and Carmen on the cover are absurd, neither character was even in the book.

 

[outrider1]

Do you think the attentiveness paid to a novel on pool helped your game?

I think reading is more important than any movie.

 

[outrider1]

As I recall TCOM book is completely different than the movie and TH movie somewhat different than the book. Both books are better than the movies and are must reads for everyone on this forum.

Here here!

 

[outrider1]

I wonder how two books by the same author produced such different movies. Is it just the wildly different leads - Newman the actor vs. Cruise the face?

pj
chgo

I believe the producers/directors are responsible for it. The Hustler mostly followed the authors storyline, I don't know what Scorsese was thinking about. A payday I guess.

 

[outrider1]

For anyone who has not read the book the color of money it really is a must read because it’s a completely different story line then the movie

Exactly! And IMO the book was superior to that movie.

 

[Fatboy]

I wonder how two books by the same author produced such different movies. Is it just the wildly different leads - Newman the actor vs. Cruise the face?

pj
chgo

Cruise is a jackoff

 

[outrider1]

The producers/directors are responsible. Walter Tevish wrote two great books about pool. Scorsese just made a payday there. TCOM could have been a classic also right up with the Hustler. Sad really.

 

[Pushout]

I think this is what you were referring to.
It’s one of my favorite pool memorabilia.

That's the one I have!

 

[outrider1]

That's the one I have!

Cool,post a picture!

 

[Pushout]

For me I think you could debate whether the hustler was a pool movie or a drama that had pool in it
jmho

I believe it was intended as a love story with pool.

 

[Fatboy]

COM was based on the “dump” which destroyed gambling in pool. Nice.

Should have never been made

Fatboy<——-hates the dump more than the purple 5