19.5 is ok. But at 19.8 I can do 626 before breakfastI just ordered ANOTHER new cue (ugh), and I went with 19.5 oz. I suspect I'll never miss a ball again
Cue weight?
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dammit! I knew I should have gotten a couple more ounces!19.5 is ok. But at 19.8 I can do 626 before breakfast
eh as long as its under 20 ill get used to it,
MajorMiscue
Democat
I started with the lightest house cues I could find, typically marked 17. I found one 17 that had no weight in the butt so it had to be more like 16oz. That was 60 years ago. I gradually went to heavier cues simply because I wasn't finding light ones. Now I typically buy a 19oz because they are popular and available, then remove the weight(s). I find that I control the cb better with a lighter cue. I use fast cloth and not hitting the cb hard enough is rarely the issue. With a lighter cue I find I can hit soft shots easier. Balance point on my favorites is 17.5". My McDermott feels nose heavy with the balance point at 20.5"with the Defy cf shaft. I'll stick with my Meuccis.
I always enjoy how dialed in people are with weight / balance. This is literally nothing I have ever paided attention to. Couldn't tell you the weight or balance of any cue I've used for pool over the last 30yrs.
Much ado about nothing imo.
That said, maybe that's the reason I don't play pro spd...lol
Much ado about nothing imo.
That said, maybe that's the reason I don't play pro spd...lol
71dewajack
Active member
I really never gave much thought to weight, having played with cues ranging from 18-21 oz. for years. After getting back into the game in the last year, however, I've been noticing weight and balance more and I've found that 19oz or thereabouts is just right for me. I have some old Schon butts that are a tinge below 15oz. and they feel really good and comfortable to me.
I bought a cue recently and the butt weighs 16oz. I can certainly shoot with it, but doubt I'll keep it because it just doesn't feel as comfortable.
I bought a cue recently and the butt weighs 16oz. I can certainly shoot with it, but doubt I'll keep it because it just doesn't feel as comfortable.
Everything you presented is applicable and it goes without saying, what works for you
may not for another player. But there isn’t much doubt that when a player dials in his
equipment, when their cue is just the way they like it to be, they play better. It’s that way
in amateur & professional golf, tennis, bowling, shooting, pool, heck, even baseball gloves.
The observation how it’s insignificant to you does not diminish the significance or importance
for other pool players. All carbon fiber shafts are not the same, all maple shafts are not alike,
nor are cue butts or cue tips, etc. The size & taper of a shaft is important to most pool players.
Good players can pick up a house cue & win but they’d likely play better using their own cue.
The challenge is the majority of players don’t know their equipment aside from playing with the
cue(s). Now it might not be important for them and that’s fine. You can play golf with clubs with
a std. loft and lie but when you are fitted properly, your clubs are adjusted for your specific swing.
Every cue maker can build a cue but unless you can specify what you want, you’ll wind up with the
equivalent of golf clubs with std. loft & lie. You just won’t achieve your best performance but for some
players, that’s not even on their minds. How Come? Well, with pool, it’s usually because a player hasn’t
quite figured out what they like & why. You can only learn this by testing and playing with different cues
and cue makers. It took me 3-4 years & several cues before I concluded how I want my pool cues to be.
Do a simple survey next time you’re in a pool hall. Ask 20 players what their cue weighs and better still,
how the weight is distributed, i.e., butt & shaft., what brand & hardness tip is on their cue, shaft diameter,
any weight bolt and if so, what weight? Be prepared for quizzical expressions and maybe even get “what
difference does it make.” And for that player, there isn’t any difference because they don’t care. A cue is
a cue, just a tool to be used. As long as it’s not too heavy or light, they’re fine which is why 19 ozs. is so
popular. It’s a weight cue makers can easily deliver by adding a weight bolt when needed or increase the
cue’s weight with a heavier bolt. It’s not the best way to produce excellent balance but to each their own.
The bottomline is ultimately what you touched upon. Just play with what you like even if you don’t exactly
know why you like it. And you don’t have to understand why because it’s unimportant to you. Just like any
cue maker understands pool cue anatomy, lots of better players do too and order their cues a specific way.
It’s also important to acknowledge that the most expensive cue made exactly as you want it can never make
up for your poor stroke mechanics, limited knowledge of English, position play or game strategy…..Nuf Ced!
p.s. The use of “you” in my reply was mainly intended for pool players in general. Everyone should play with
what they like and it’s just that most players don’t understand why or don’t have an opinion on the matter.
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It's not just the weight, it's also how it's balanced. Rear weighted cues tend to feel heavier during the stroke than those balanced in the middle or forward. Wight and balance are about as personal a preference as food or colors, there is not "right or wrong" one to pick, only what you end up liking. What 500 others like does not really mean anything for your own decision past just having 500 different replies and curiosity.
I agree with hang the 9. I think it's more about the balance, than the weight. The one I have is 21oz plus. But it feels more like 19.5, due to where the weight is placed throughout the cue. Also the weight of the shaft, will have an effect on how a cue will feel.so I know anything 4oz plus is a good place to start. 4.6 oz was the heaviest I ever used. But it changed the balance too much. So there is a fine line. It had too much foward balance, or on the other hand if you have too much in weight in the butt, the shaft can feel too lite. If you know where you like the weight. It is possible to get exactly what your after. By Having a custom built. I thought this could not be done until recently. As I tried many times over the years. My main problem with most cues I brought, was the weight is always put in the butt sleeve. With a wacking great long weight bolt. I think messing with different weight bolts is not the answer. Weight distribution is what is important for a decent balance,which is why a lot of cue makers use the natural weight of woods to get the same effect, so really, it's what feels right to you.
Couple of Cues I play with are 18.9-19.4 Oz, me think balance & hoe you hold when shooting is big deal.
One Titlist is perfect balance, just feels right all the time.
One Titlist is perfect balance, just feels right all the time.
I bought cues reported to be 19 oz. After playing with them for a while I lightened them to 18 oz and just under 18 oz.
The lighter the cue the easier it is to hit a ball with great delicacy.
The heavier the cue the more you can add power.
The lighter the cue the easier it is to hit a ball with great delicacy.
The heavier the cue the more you can add power.
Another way to distribute the weight during construction is the joint, when I have my cue built the maker had me stop by before he glued everything together and we swapped several pins around with different weights to get a balance I liked. The difference between brass and steel was fairly large.
Think peoples like & dislike change depend on thing we do not control.
If your well rested, verses not will rested we might say perfect or heavy.
I honestly can not pick up most Cues, and guess weight.
The only way to tell weight is with scale, and depending on balance point. Both Cues that weigh same feel different.
If your well rested, verses not will rested we might say perfect or heavy.
I honestly can not pick up most Cues, and guess weight.
The only way to tell weight is with scale, and depending on balance point. Both Cues that weigh same feel different.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
I recently pulled all the weights out of both my Player and Break. I am finding that I much prefer them both with the lighter weight.
Player is 14.3 + 4.2 = 18.5
Break is 12.8 + 6.2 = 19.0
They weigh close to the same, but the balance point is different. The lighter butt on the break pairs well with the heavier Black Ice shaft. It is forward weighted while keeping the overall weight lighter.
Player is 14.3 + 4.2 = 18.5
Break is 12.8 + 6.2 = 19.0
They weigh close to the same, but the balance point is different. The lighter butt on the break pairs well with the heavier Black Ice shaft. It is forward weighted while keeping the overall weight lighter.
skiergd011013
Well-known member
my player is 19 and my breaker is 17. I believe 19 is the most common by far. As someone earlier also said, I have a pechauer with the weight bolt system that can be changed easily. I checked mine on a calibrated scale.
Yes this will make a difference. Because I was looking for a very specific balance on mine. I was Trying to copy an old master Stroke butt from 50s. That for some reason actually helped me swing better, with an old 4oz jensen shaft. So my cue maker Had an idea. When the original plan was put the weight in the handle, that wasn't possible in the end. So the idea was to put a lead Weight right behind the joint pin. The cues core construction. Was a purple heart house cue. Then everything else was added to that.
Anyway somehow he managed to match the weight and balance almost perfectly.