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Is anyone interested in a MINI RC car that can position balls on the table for drills or racks?

Its not a training tool, its more just fun to watch a car positions balls on the table. It is suppose to be part of a drone space exploration education kit.

Stage 2 after purchasing the mini rc car is practicing manual driving OR automated driving.

This is my favorite exercise in engineering school first year. Now that I am grown up I make adult versions of it.

I did this with a LEGO kit, but today's electronics have improved a lot, so I am itching for another go.
 
Can't play this, but get the gist from the thumbnail.

I saw some bizarre 'stroke trainer' on Taobao the other day. Will post a picture when I find it later. Looks like a torture device... Cannot stand gimmicks. Pick a pro you like, imitate their style... Get a real coach... Practice... Be realistic and make small goals and work on them...

OR

Strap yourself into a fix-it machine that'll turn you pro lol
Unless that pro is Bustamante. Whatever you do, don’t imitate him.

Guess who my favorite player is, and how long it took me to fix my stroke.
 
Unless that pro is Bustamante. Whatever you do, don’t imitate him.

Guess who my favorite player is, and how long it took me to fix my stroke.
hahahahaha I grew up liking Marco Fu, and I really want to imitate his stroke (no feathering, extended pause when sighting - fire). As a teenager I was utterly determined... My father would get so annoyed... Then I 'grew up' and realised that Stephen Lee (although he's cheating scum now sadly) - had the Rolls Royce of cue actions.
In the pool world, there are a lot of pristine examples these days (...and also some that are not technically out of the hand book, but work - which shows that natural talent can override technique).
I think we need to try these things as amateurs, and acknowledge when they don't work for us. Just part of the game we love :)

I want to see you slamming length of the table behind your back buddy! Bring out your inner busty :)
 
Luckily, I’ve moved on to trying to imitate Buddy Hall. This has proven much more fortuitous

hahahahaha I grew up liking Marco Fu, and I really want to imitate his stroke (no feathering, extended pause when sighting - fire). As a teenager I was utterly determined... My father would get so annoyed... Then I 'grew up' and realised that Stephen Lee (although he's cheating scum now sadly) - had the Rolls Royce of cue actions.
In the pool world, there are a lot of pristine examples these days (...and also some that are not technically out of the hand book, but work - which shows that natural talent can override technique).
I think we need to try these things as amateurs, and acknowledge when they don't work for us. Just part of the game we love :)

I want to see you slamming length of the table behind your back buddy! Bring out your inner busty :)
 
Luckily, I’ve moved on to trying to imitate Buddy Hall. This has proven much more fortuitous
I'm still learning to pick and choose what works from my snooker background. I don't think I focus on anyone imparticular. There's a lot of imperfect actions out there, things no coach would have you copy, but they are working for top-level players. Watching players with more classical, upright techniques (like Gorst), although a little boring. Helps me to gauge shot selection, tempo etc etc
 
As I get older and realize my back can suffer from over use, I have adopted a seated playing position.

Not having to bend up and down or twist has made the game physically more enjoyable.

It might also be the fact that while sitting I can enjoy the alcohol and not have to worry about balancing.
 
As I get older and realize my back can suffer from over use, I have adopted a seated playing position.

Not having to bend up and down or twist has made the game physically more enjoyable.

It might also be the fact that while sitting I can enjoy the alcohol and not have to worry about balancing.

This may be your best post ever. I'm on board all the way.

The biggest benefit is peace of mind. The more you drink the less you gaf when you miss.
 
This may be your best post ever. I'm on board all the way.

The biggest benefit is peace of mind. The more you drink the less you gaf when you miss.
The key is to drink enough so that you don't wish you were playing. And to not drink so much you *think* you're playing and it's your turn. Forever.
 
Unless that pro is Bustamante. Whatever you do, don’t imitate him.

Guess who my favorite player is, and how long it took me to fix my stroke.

yep, not the ideal player to imitate. first pool video i watched was jim rempe's straight pool video. of that era rempe probably had the best fundamentals.
 
all of a sudden the coke bottle drill woke cut it these days online experts will tell you lol
I like to stroke over the "tape measure of truth", available at home depot and Lowes for under $15. Seeing the cue move over the tape measure with a bit of the tape visible on both sides is a clearer visual than stroking over the seam on the rail, it's also my actual passing position.

I also made a zig zag piece of paper with a line down the middle that helps confirm vision center alignment. Same concept as the sight right.
 
I feel like the device in the OP just forces a "swing path" or "stroke path".....I have seen very similar devices used for Golf swings.......and although it puts you on the proper swing path.....It does not always put you in a proper grip, stance, posture and alignment to reproduce that swing path "naturally"....The "key" IMO is adjusting your grip, stance posture and alignment for the cue to follow the correct swing path "naturally "so that under pressure it does not break down.

I made (3D printed) my own gizmo....It has for lack of a better word... "gun sights" triangles...center and edge for stick aiming variations and can also be used to develop a feel for applying tips or 1/2 tips of English....I wanted something I could actually play racks with...but realized that although my stroke was straight (down a line) that the triangles were tilting on follow through....so I made a version and added wings that call out any twisting of the cue on the stroke that I use on the straight line drill where you place a CB on the spot and shoot to a piece of chalk centered on the far end rail.......I can also use it as a warm up by just setting up balls in a row and just shooting them into a pocket and checking for any "tilt" on the wings at follow through.....A side benefit it seems to have is it kind of promotes a hold your finish...(so you can see the results or tilt or no tilt)
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I feel like the device in the OP just forces a "swing path" or "stroke path".....I have seen very similar devices used for Golf swings.......and although it puts you on the proper swing path.....It does not always put you in a proper grip, stance, posture and alignment to reproduce that swing path "naturally"....The "key" IMO is adjusting your grip, stance posture and alignment for the cue to follow the correct swing path "naturally "so that under pressure it does not break down.

I made (3D printed) my own gizmo....It has for lack of a better word... "gun sights" triangles...center and edge for stick aiming variations and can also be used to develop a feel for applying tips or 1/2 tips of English....I wanted something I could actually play racks with...but realized that although my stroke was straight (down a line) that the triangles were tilting on follow through....so I made a version and added wings that call out any twisting of the cue on the stroke that I use on the straight line drill where you place a CB on the spot and shoot to a piece of chalk centered on the far end rail.......I can also use it as a warm up by just setting up balls in a row and just shooting them into a pocket and checking for any "tilt" on the wings at follow through.....A side benefit it seems to have is it kind of promotes a hold your finish...(so you can see the results or tilt or no tilt)
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A theodolite uses its sight plus a known anchor point for elevation.

Have you put anything on the table for additional triangulation?

I hope its tournament regulation.
 
I feel like the device in the OP just forces a "swing path" or "stroke path".....I have seen very similar devices used for Golf swings.......and although it puts you on the proper swing path.....It does not always put you in a proper grip, stance, posture and alignment to reproduce that swing path "naturally"....The "key" IMO is adjusting your grip, stance posture and alignment for the cue to follow the correct swing path "naturally "so that under pressure it does not break down.

I made (3D printed) my own gizmo....It has for lack of a better word... "gun sights" triangles...center and edge for stick aiming variations and can also be used to develop a feel for applying tips or 1/2 tips of English....I wanted something I could actually play racks with...but realized that although my stroke was straight (down a line) that the triangles were tilting on follow through....so I made a version and added wings that call out any twisting of the cue on the stroke that I use on the straight line drill where you place a CB on the spot and shoot to a piece of chalk centered on the far end rail.......I can also use it as a warm up by just setting up balls in a row and just shooting them into a pocket and checking for any "tilt" on the wings at follow through.....A side benefit it seems to have is it kind of promotes a hold your finish...(so you can see the results or tilt or no tilt)
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Great idea! Right off the bat - ahem, besides being a credible alignment tool, it illustrates that shooting pool is very unlike shooting a rifle.
 
shooting pool is very unlike shooting a rifle
I've heard pistol shooting is a good analogue for pool. Even though I think of shooting pool and shooting rifles as precision projectile sports with a rifle you have a precise aiming tool, the sights, and a clearly illustrated point to aim at. I have not shot a rifle in a while, I am curious if all the pool shooting has improved my marksmanship.
 
I've heard pistol shooting is a good analogue for pool. Even though I think of shooting pool and shooting rifles as precision projectile sports with a rifle you have a precise aiming tool, the sights, and a clearly illustrated point to aim at. I have not shot a rifle in a while, I am curious if all the pool shooting has improved my marksmanship.
Probably has an effect on linear focus - zeroing in on an object in front of you. With guns though, you point where the projectile needs to be and with a pool stick well you know... I don't play with guns so I always find the gun analogy odd. The mechanisms are apples and oranges - or watermelons... lol...
 
I've heard pistol shooting is a good analogue for pool. Even though I think of shooting pool and shooting rifles as precision projectile sports with a rifle you have a precise aiming tool, the sights, and a clearly illustrated point to aim at. I have not shot a rifle in a while, I am curious if all the pool shooting has improved my marksmanship.
The only part I find similar is the requirement to quiet the parts of your body that are not being used, while repeating the movements that are used. Bowling is also similar in this way. The movements that are used are so different, though, that there actually is no translation between the two for me personally.
 
A theodolite uses its sight plus a known anchor point for elevation.

Have you put anything on the table for additional triangulation?

I hope its tournament regulation.
Never used one so really don't know anything about them.....I can tell you what I do....On a actual gun the outer sights are closer to your eye and the middle sight is further away....the the middle sight needs to be centered between the outer sights (for straight shooting).....on my guizmo that is not the case (they are all three the same distance from eye) so won't work quite the same as a actual gun.....This is a method I have adapted which I think fits your method of triangulation.....and plays well with the gun (like) sights on my guizmo....

Every pool player I have watched good and bad....seem to stand behind the ball with the cue at an angle across the track line and then seem to pivot the cue into alignment with the "back" of the CB as they are getting down on the shot.... .....When they get down on the shot the tip may be at the correct point on the CB but the back end of the cue may fall "off line" ending up with a crooked cue and a stroke that has to basically swoop into the line.....I have seen video of myself setting up crooked....

What I started doing is using the CB as a center axis to make sure my cue was dropping down straight....You may not tell I am doing it when shooting as it happens very quick in the pre-shot....but as I am standing up...my cue pivots square to the alignment line through the CB through the GB to a point on the OB before I drop down on the shot....as I drop down on the shot the cue is already aligned to the OB but drops in behind the CB...........I am basically using all three of those points (still standing up) to drop my cue on......I use a variation of stick aiming so some shots use the center arrow (center shaft) some use the left or right edge.....So...since I am using three points....I guess you could say I am "triangulating" the cue before I drop down on the shot...

Here is a crude diagram but the straight lines represent the cue and what I look at while standing and what I set my cue up to before dropping down on the shot....The arrows on my guizmo help make the view very precise....and I can develop the relationship of center cue and edge of cue.......hopefully that all makes sense on how I apply the triangle gun sights....
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