A New Pool game...? Yes... Look inside...
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newpoolgame
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I'll repeat what has been said in replies since the first reply as you missed it.
We developed it, we pitched it to 27 clubs. 21 have agreed to pre-order 112 sets in writing. One major organiser has agreed to develop it with us by adding it as one of the events for players to compete in provided the balls meet criteria when manufactured. They have all seen the designs, all know the concept and ways it can be played.
The £1 - goes into a holding account (not ours, it's via a platform).
It's a reservation. It gets released back to ALL regardless of it you pre-order or not.
If you pre-order having reserved with £1, you get a choice of additional bits and pieces, including some limited edition items.
Are you with me so far.
Tell me, if 500 reserve with £1, and if we kept it (which we won't be), what would be the benefit in running off with £500. A spa weekend with a glass of bubbly to enjoy whilstl laughing at all those who paid £1 each?
Reservation funnels is absolutely a great way to go about increasing the likelihood of people backing your project and pre-ordering via crowdfunding. It's a proven method, and thousands of businesses worldwide do it every year.
ah ha!! so the new ball game theory has passed the test but until the actual balls that are being made by a secret company and have yet to be seen are delivered no one can commit
sounds like electronically controlled nuclear powered pool balls using artificial intelligence, which could indeed fix the problem that we have with the same old solids and stripes
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newpoolgame
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All will be revealed, I think I have stated that.
It would be daft for them to commit until the balls are in their hands for inspection?
We have someone who will be on quality control double checking what is produced meets requirements for the tournament sets. The televised and non-televised event organisers and do the same with new sets of Aramith balls (or others) before saying "yes, we will be happy to use them". Would you disagree with this?
Likewise for you to pre-order until we reveal, which is why we aren't expecting anyone to do so until then.
Should we have to reveal the company and factory that would be making them? No. We just need to ensure that it's done ethically and the quality of the product is suitable, using materials to justify the price, the longevity of the product and so on.
Many are speculating on what we have developed, no issue with that. We don't see an issue with spots and stripes. They serve the purpose of identifying which ball is next in sequence or which balls are assigned to which player. Stripes ensure we end up with 7 colours plus half white so there aren't 14 colours plus the black.
No problem or issue with that. This is nothing we are looking to change.
It's something completely different. Completely.
What if we have developed something you can see there to be a need for in a certain scenario?
It'll be 80-90% venues that would purchase. Many venue owners are members here. Many individuals like to buy and collect sets for their own use.
Would you not be willing to have a little open-mindedness despite others trying but failing?
A 1000 drinks brands pitch to large supermarkets annually, a dozen might get on to the shelves. Will everyone buy them? No. But if there are enough to merit production and stocking, then that's great.
Do you have one item of clothing for all occasions? No. Because some suit certain scenarios better than others.
You would go jogging in jeans. You could, but it would be easier to wear something for that scenario.
Can you see where I'm coming from here?
Am I daft for even asking that question?
i know,
a mid-game option to turn a snookered object ball into another one that is open
(please swipe your card now for a one time payment)
or perhaps,
magnets within the balls that sense the pocket and will make them go in no matter where they are hit by the cue ball
(payment required to activate as part of your pre shot routine)
or maybe,
a flashing or glowing light that appears on the object ball, showing you exactly where to hit it
(payment required to activate as part of your pre shot routine)
oh! why didn’t this occur to anyone sooner!
-what you have designed of course is a cue ball (spotted white) that is not bound by gravity and is able to take flight and manipulate it’s way through any number of problems!
finally! but it’s no wonder aramith said, we’re too busy
eureka! it’s called mirrorball!
watching the table and watching the shots in action will be like seeing a live video of yourself shooting pool
shooters will be able to see around spaces that could never before be seen and make judgements about shot development using information that non reflective balls just cannot provide
shooters will be able to better determine the contact point on the object ball by looking at the shot not only from their perspective but also from the object ball’s point of view
shooters will also now be able to check themselves from a new vantage point and make crucial alignment decisions based on an immediate feedback that has never before been available
and also the shooter’s confidence will increase greatly with the knowledge of how they look during the shot, and whether or not their hair is at it’s best, or their jewelry is just right, or if their hat is positioned properly
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Daft??? Don't hear that much. You are a lime,errrrrrrrrrr, Brit right???
You must not realize that 90% of the people on here are in the US and will never buy/play what you are describing. There are already enough well-established games to go around. Good luck, just don't be to surprised when this goes nowhere. If i'm wrong i'll have a lil crow salad. Don't see that on the menu anytime soon.
newpoolgame
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I haven't described anything so unsure how you came to this conclusion!Daft??? Don't hear that much. You are a lime,errrrrrrrrrr, Brit right???
Not saying it will DEFINITELY work, but based on conversations and who we have disclosed it to thus far - which involves more than 27 people (the clubs we approached had 3-4 people attend the meeting) the response was overwhelmingly a yes. Majority with American pool tables.
We are willing to give it a go, despite the pessimism based on past failures by others. Where many fail, others find a way to succeed.
I’ve developed a pool ball with Aramith and I’ve spent my own money to place it into the hands of players and critics, free of charge. Nothing fancy, just trust.
Reservation funnels, kickstarters, and trendy funding schemes aren’t received well here until you show and tell.
Just repeating what we are trying to tell you.
Reservation funnels, kickstarters, and trendy funding schemes aren’t received well here until you show and tell.
Just repeating what we are trying to tell you.
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newpoolgame
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From the first post I have stated it will be revealed soon.
One pool ball is different to 9 sets of 3 grades and sizes with a MOQ of x sets or thousands to just get a few sets made equal to the cost of the MOQ. Makes no business sense right now.
I haven't asked for anything other than to stay tuned, have I?
If you don't like it when revealed, no problem. That's your personal choice. I haven't asked anyone or directed anyone to anything that requires payment or reservation.
If you have all been made aware it will be revealed soon, why the pessimism before that happens?
I made it quite clear what is happening, when, why and how.
That really should be enough for now.
The US isn't our only market. Yet, I have receive a couple of genuinely interested US based users wishing to be kept updated by email from this forum. Some from other parts of the world, too.
Yes I see. You are just advertising then.
In that case you may not be aware that advertising is against Main Forum rules. There is a different forum for that.
It may be why you are receiving a lot of resistance.
newpoolgame
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So report this thread that has been open for a few days that mods would have seen and get it removed?
Potentially miss out on the information when revealed as we wouldn't come back, nor work with AZB who could stock our sets or accept orders for sets themselves. We want to collaborate and have users here involved in what we believe is exciting for new and seasoned players, and those just out socially who want to play for fun as part of their time out with others.
If a mod wants to contact us, details have been provided. If this thread gets removed, we will take it that AZB wish not to have a potential collaboration.
Ask yourself, what if this set and concept is something genuine and something you and others might actually enjoy?
Well, think of it this way. You are talking to a bunch of pool players, whose entire modus operandi is putting your money where your mouth is. And at the same time you are surprised with the feedback.
Good luck, I hope your business plan is successful. I'll use your ball set if I see them available to rent in my local pool hall one day.
newpoolgame
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I am only surprised that there is such an expectation to have to tell you all everything right now and that many seem to reply with "no one is going to pay anything for something no one knows anything about"...
From message and reply 1, it has been explained the reveal is coming soon and when it does, you will be able to reserve with a refundable £1 for "VIP" bits, if you like what we have developed.
I have had to repeat answers to the same questions. I'm not sure who's fault that is. Have I not been clear?
We are not trying to change the game, not trying to get you to stop playing 8 ball, 9 ball etc.
We have created something new as an optional game for a reason to "fix" a "problem" in a particular scenario.
We have invested a lot of money in this already, and time.
Crowdfunding allows us the opportunity to order a larger quantity from the manufacturer.
The majority of crowdfunders launching new products do it for the same reason, or for funding towards R&D. It means more of the product can be readily available AND provides the opportunity to reach a wider audience.
We are working with someone who for 7 or 8 years has made a living working with crowdfunders, helping successfully reach their project targets. There is still a lot to do the next few weeks.
Building a little interest and anticipation in advance is something many do.
I hope you do find them in your location one day. If I may ask, what is your local hall. I will see if it is on our database and let you know when we contact them.
11 pages on no product info.
and if you’ve somehow gotten rid of
the purple five ball it’ll all be worth it!
newpoolgame
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Yes, and repeating answers to questions asked multiple times for those who didn't see the answers in my original post or the first reply.
It could be just one page, but people will be people and give their opinions and views on something without knowing what it is when we have stated roughly when details will be revealed.
It's the users replying and posting resulting in 11 pages of "nothing" who skim read and don't look for the responses to what they might be asking. Everything is in the first post and reply.