Dress code in tournaments

hello said:
You or me not sponsoring pool is a non factor as ''no'' big company is sponsoring the game and I doubt its because players at some point dressed too elegantly, hence, yes, it is something that very well can be discussed.
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Just who would sponsor pool in the US? I'm being serious. List some potential sponsors.

It's mainly played in bars or pool halls. Billiards equipment and Billiards industry obviously. But who else? What demographic are pool players?

Pros dressing well will not suddenly make sponsors think it's golf players with tons of disposable income. They are not so naive to think that because players dress well there is a market.

I could see blue collar things, fast food, beer, maybe energy drinks, gambling. But who else? I mean, what exact type of market other than "regular people" does billiards have that other sports don't?

Would it do to spend advertising money if you were a hotel chain? A luxury watch company? A shoe company? A BBQ grill company? A motorcycle company? BMW? Would any of this change if the pros dressed nicer?

When Earl wore a polo, did luxury goods suddenly start advertising on ESPN? No.

Pool has no real niche demographic nor one with money, so in my opinion, unless it's just "common man" stuff or Billiards related, you'd be a fool to invest in advertisement for the sport.

Could Rolex make any money advertising in pool when most pool players are just average people?

Honestly, IMO pool doesn't have an image problem, it has a demographics problem. You'd be better off advertising to almost any group than pool players/fans.

Does professional bowling have much advertising other than bowling equipment? It's the same thing. Does cornhole? Probably not but I don't know. I'd guess they would do better advertising beer and BBQ grills rather than Luxury vehicles.

I get wanting players to look professional. It adds a layer of legitimacy. Just like you would not want to go to the doctor and see him wearing flip flops. But really, the pool demographic has no reason to be advertised to. Yes, it could potentially bring money, but what business would be foolish enough to spend advertising money on such an arbitrary group? Billiards equipment and industry. No other advertisement/sponsors make sense from a financial standpoint.
 
You don't have to wear a suit but nice pants and shirt nothing wrong with that, but when you see ripped jeans hats on backwards shorts showing ass cracks that reminds me of bar bangers.
 
boogieman said:
Does professional bowling have much advertising other than bowling equipment? It's the same thing. Does cornhole? Probably not but I don't know. I'd guess they would do better advertising beer and BBQ grills rather than Luxury vehicles.
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Cornhole has that fat Johnsonville Brat money rolling in!

You and I are in100% agreement. Nobody outside of the industry is going to sponsor an event where a ton of the people watching don't have two nickels to rub together. The ROI just isn't there. I mean, we've seen people openly complaining about streams costing $10 or $20 or that so-and-so is making "all this money" selling *insert random pool related item.* If somebody out there can do it better cheaper, go do it! I sincerely hope you can.
 
sciarco said:
You don't have to wear a suit but nice pants and shirt nothing wrong with that, but when you see ripped jeans hats on backwards shorts showing ass cracks that reminds me of bar bangers.
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Can the guy with his ass crack hanging out get out every time he's supposed to and sometimes when he's not? Let him play! 😁

I don't have a problem with realistic dress codes for bigger events and above. In my opinion, The Derby has gotten it as right as possible. Although, I wouldn't have a problem with them allowing shorts as long as they're neat.
 
I was harping on this in another thread. I don’t think the issue is dress code. The heart of the issue is the identity of this event. What does it want to be when it grows up? Regional minor ProAm or major (second-tier) US professional event? I’m not imagining it’ll be a Florida Open, International Open, or US Open ever. But it’s also kinda below Super Billiards Expo, Rally in the Shenandoah Valley, Battle of the Bull, etc. as a 9-ball event. I can forgive the pocket sizes. But it should be a WNT ranking event, consistent rules, up the production a tad, and up the dress code a smidge. But even then it doesn’t have to be to A-tier standards because it still wouldn’t be an A-tier event. I’d just like it to go from a 95% amateur / 5% pro event more towards a 70% amateur / 30% pro event or better. Honestly this year’s field left a lot to be desired.
 
hello said:
What would you suggest..?Purple..?

Again, I said no suits should be worn...
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Purple mise well be black.
COLOR is what I'm talking about.

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This for Pat Fleming's upcoming International Open:

DRESS CODE Dress-type shirt (with or without a collar) or a dress-type sweater. Dress slacks; no sweat pants, warm-up pants, jogging pants, cargo pants, or jeans. Dark shoes or dark-colored tennis or walking-type shoes; no sandals, slippers or open-toed shoes. No headphones, earphones, earplugs, iPod, Bluetooth devices, hats, caps or headgear. Hearing aids are permitted. Note: Any dress code exception to the above must be approved by the Tournament Administration prior to the Tournament.

Includes SVB, lol.

Lou Figueroa
the horse has left
the barn on this one, lads
 
Jimmy_Betmore said:
In the world of corporations, no. In the world of pool, yes. I'd argue they're the biggest brand in pool now and are what Meucci was in the 80's and 90's. They're all over everything and the league players are gaga over their cues.

As far as pool attracting big corporate sponsors goes, it's probably not going to happen anytime soon. The average pool player just doesn't have the type of income to make it worth their investment. I mean, go back through these forums and look at how many times people have complained about table time prices, chalk prices, food and drink prices, etc. And we all know the cheapskates at our own poolrooms. In the meantime I know absolute hack golfers that have never even sniffed breaking 100 who don't bat an eye at going out and blowing $55.00 on a dozen Titlist Pro V1's. And they're going to lose half of them in one round. That's not even taking into consideration the cost of the round, $5.00+ beer cart brews, their clubs, and whatever else. But here we are complaining about $30.00 for a cube of chalk that should last the average person at least a few months. Or a $35.00 tip that should last at least that long.

Pool does not have an image problem. Pool has a money problem. Sponsors wouldn't care if the players wore assless chaps as long as there's enough money in it.
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Pool player are great at killing off potential sponsor SS pointed about above.

Plus the average Pool player don’t have a nice 800 plus credit.
 
lfigueroa said:
This for Pat Fleming's upcoming International Open:

DRESS CODE Dress-type shirt (with or without a collar) or a dress-type sweater. Dress slacks; no sweat pants, warm-up pants, jogging pants, cargo pants, or jeans. Dark shoes or dark-colored tennis or walking-type shoes; no sandals, slippers or open-toed shoes. No headphones, earphones, earplugs, iPod, Bluetooth devices, hats, caps or headgear. Hearing aids are permitted. Note: Any dress code exception to the above must be approved by the Tournament Administration prior to the Tournament.

Includes SVB, lol.

Lou Figueroa
the horse has left
the barn on this one, lads
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Pat is old school and all class.One of the best people ''ever'' in pool.
 
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