used to be pred vantage shaft. would think it still is, but idk.
his tip is higher than most, i noticed that
List of pro players who stick to wood as their playing shaft
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used to be pred vantage shaft. would think it still is, but idk.
his tip is higher than most, i noticed that
The first 3 watches below cost as much as a custom cue. By comparison, the last watch is like a cue from Walmart.
Expensive chronometers only do one thing….keep time. Custom cues do one thing…..hit pool balls, just as intended.
What you pay for a watch has little to do with anything other than do you like the look, not because it’s more accurate.
The price you pay for a cue has little to do with how good a pool player you are. It really comes down to what you want.
Wood shafts will always have a place because compared to CF shafts, wood shafts are generally inexpensive except for
special edition low deflection shafts that are a specialty item. Cue makers will still offer wood shafts and CF as an option.
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Cue makers will stop offering wooden shafts if customers won’t want them.
CF shafts cost more but will last more so in the long run, they are cheaper.
If you get a cue to play with, you should want a low deflection shaft. So basically standard wooden shafts will only be a collector thing which makes no sense as they will just warp over time in storage and only the butt matters in collecting cues for show.
There are quite a few CF shafts on the market, disregarding the cheap amazon/temu shafts. They have different characteristics so a player can find what they like. The saying CF is CF is simply wrong and based on zero experience with different shafts.
You must have prior experience with green wood shafts or something. My Palmer shaft is likely older than you and
straight as a taut string approaching 60 years old. My Schon cue was completed in early ‘85 and is like new. Wood
shafts can warp and can dent. You can’t always eliminate the warp but can repair the dent. A CF shaft won’t warp
but can dent and repairing it is a problem. Wood shafts will outlive the cue’s owner if you take care of your pool cue.
straight as a taut string approaching 60 years old. My Schon cue was completed in early ‘85 and is like new. Wood
shafts can warp and can dent. You can’t always eliminate the warp but can repair the dent. A CF shaft won’t warp
but can dent and repairing it is a problem. Wood shafts will outlive the cue’s owner if you take care of your pool cue.
This is the fourth name you relisted.
And you're free to put me on Ignore. In fact it would be an honor to be on your Ig list. Keep asking these same old lame questions and i'm gonna keep hammering the shit out of them. Fkng sue me. How's that for literate enough.
I have wooden shafts that are dead straight after 20 years and some that warped, same goes to cue butts.
Point is, wood moves and changes and there is no debate that CF is more durable and more consistent.
You’ll have to bang a CF shaft really hard on something very sharp to ding it.
CF shafts will also outlive their owners even if don’t take such a good care of them.
The only reason that the industry haven’t killed the wooden shafts already is that they can sell you more shafts made of wood in a lifetime than CF shafts so they can make more money of you. And why just sell you a CF shaft when they sell wood shaft and then sell you the CF as an upgrade.
But eventually the production companies will realize that ditching wood is more economical for them.
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would a hybrid shaft considered as wood for the sake of this list?
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Agreed there, though it's the watch features, materials, and movement grade that drive prices much higher than the basic models. My personal collection includes these guys:
Have you done an age comparison on this??
Do you think there is any kind of a trend?
I have been playing a Kielwood shaft for the past 10 months. It performs so well that I ordered two more KW shafts get made but by a different cue maker. Cory Barnhart only builds radial thread cues and shafts so I had to find another cue builder to undertake building two (2) flat faced big pin KW shafts. Those shafts arrived 3 weeks ago and I was genuinely pleased with how my first KW shaft performs. After playing with the new KW shafts Jim Pierce made, I’m even more thrilled than before.
The more I play pool with Jim’s shafts, the better I am performing. At my age, that isn’t supposed to happen and with my infirmities, it really should be completely implausible. Darn it, I’m running racks and making cut shots that even startle me. The KW shafts Jim built like I wanted are the best hitting wood shafts I’ve played with since learning pool 65 years ago.
The more I play pool with Jim’s shafts, the better I am performing. At my age, that isn’t supposed to happen and with my infirmities, it really should be completely implausible. Darn it, I’m running racks and making cut shots that even startle me. The KW shafts Jim built like I wanted are the best hitting wood shafts I’ve played with since learning pool 65 years ago.
I always wanted to add a Rolex Daytona but it’s kind of pricey. In retrospect, I spent a lot more than that on some cues
that I didn’t really need but simply wanted to get made because I designed them. I wanted to see the cues come to life.
Well, the cues did and know what? I’m in an equivalent predicament with watches. I have more pool cues than I need.
I also own more watches than I need. I don’t have the cue I’ve always wanted which is a Joel Hercek cue. I also don’t
have a Rolex Daytona Chronograph I’ve always wanted. So I’ve learned to stop wondering, wishing & live with what I have which is more than I need but not what I want. Settling is easy if you are already fortunate to just have what you already do.
that I didn’t really need but simply wanted to get made because I designed them. I wanted to see the cues come to life.
Well, the cues did and know what? I’m in an equivalent predicament with watches. I have more pool cues than I need.
I also own more watches than I need. I don’t have the cue I’ve always wanted which is a Joel Hercek cue. I also don’t
have a Rolex Daytona Chronograph I’ve always wanted. So I’ve learned to stop wondering, wishing & live with what I have which is more than I need but not what I want. Settling is easy if you are already fortunate to just have what you already do.
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Wow!! You don't hear that very often. Happy for you Matt!!
You may be right in your assumption, but I hope not. I could see companies eventually getting to the point where it shifts. Wood shafts as an option, CF standard. Hopefully there will always be a contingent of players who simply prefer wood over CF. For whatever their reason are, they're theirs. For me, it's the hit, feedback, look and feel. And now with the addition of Kielwood, I don't think wood is going anywhere anytime soon.
I don’t think that wood would die soon.
I’m sure it’ll always be an option with custom cues.
But I’m sure that eventually CF will become standard on all production cues.