I hear a lot of older players say they would like to try a CF shaft but most CF shafts are on the smaller side and don't feel comfortable to someone who has been playing with a bigger shaft, I was not an early adopter of CF, Hawaiian Eye turned me on to Becue and I have been playing them for 5 years, best playing cue I have ever owned, they have different shafts for different kinds of how the hit feels, one thing I noticed with CF is that shaft diameter did not have as much affect on the hit as it does with wood, my 11.8mm compared to my 12.5 mm felt pretty much the same, Becue is celebrating 10 years of building cues, they have added 12.7mm and 12.8mm shafts to their lineup, we're talking 1/4 of 1mm to 13mm, this shaft is going to feel really familiar to you except the boost in transfer of power you get from a CF shaft, especially Becue. they are designed for that, play with their complete CF Cue and really feel the difference.
Have you wanted to try a CF shaft but want a shaft that is closer to 13mm?
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I have a variety of ~25 CF shafts ranging from 10.5 to 14mm and have played with all of them. These days, I shoot with Revo 12.9mm shafts almost exclusively. So much so that I have 7 of them across different joint pins. One of these days, I'll get a Revo 12.9 in 5/16x14. Until then, I've got a Whyte Carbon in 12.75.
For me at least, 12.9mm is the most natural to use for tip position on the cue ball. As I'm getting older, I don't see as well as I used to and I am being stubborn about using glasses.
The only Becue shafts I have are 11.8 and 12mm, but I like them. They make a quality shaft.
For me at least, 12.9mm is the most natural to use for tip position on the cue ball. As I'm getting older, I don't see as well as I used to and I am being stubborn about using glasses.
The only Becue shafts I have are 11.8 and 12mm, but I like them. They make a quality shaft.
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I break with a Predator Revo 12.9, but it shoots pretty well with a playing tip. Prefer the 12.4, but the 12.9 is certainly playable if stiffer is your preference.
SSP,
please explain how a carbon fibre shaft transfers more power than a wood shaft. if anything, a layman would ask, "why doesn't it transfer less power as it is lighter in the front."
and how does this Becue add even more power than other carbon fibre shafts..
i thought to add more power it had to weigh(which it doesnt) more, or be going at a faster speed.
please reply i am at the edge of my chair. thanks.
CF transfers power more efficiently than MOST wood shafts, wood is not uniform, one wood shaft rarely plays like another wood shaft, when you get consistency in the material you are working with and you design the material for a specific purpose it's not a surprise for you to get better results, CF is now used in Golf clubs, Tennis racquets, bicycles and even the Space Shuttle, the engineers at Becue were already experts working in CF and are pool players, they wanted to bring to pool what CF brought to golf, they spent 3 years in R&D before releasing their 1st cue, they studied how orienting the fibers could transfer power more efficiently, this year is the 10th anniversary of business and are continuing to push boundaries in design of CF cues, I have let many of my friends hit my cue and I get the same response, you don't have to hit as hard with your cue, most of my pool playing friends have been playing far longer than I have, I started playing later in life, I'm not against wood, it would be stupid to say wood cues aren't good, there are many great playing wood cues, for many they have been playing so long with the same cue and tip and play at such a high level with their cue changing would just not make any sense, but if you are looking for a change then you are not happy with what you are using why not give a CF cue a shot, in my experience it's been very very good to me......
revo is 12.9, and tiger fortis has their 13mm
Last time I used a 13mm was using a heavy house cue for breaking. Anyway, it should be ok using a 13mm on a cf shaft. I use an 11.5 since I aim really low. For half my use.
Smaller shafts give you more precise CB contact, but for those of us whose eyes aren't what they were, larger diameter shafts are somewhat more forgiving on tip placement and stroke errors. Dips and such. You'll notice them more with a smaller shaft.
Yup. Funny thing is that I got more comfortable with smaller tip diameter as I was with a 13mm. 13mm indeed is very forgiving.
From the studies I've read about regarding a golf clubs getting distance on the ball the speed of the club head was around 90%, weight of the head factored in around 10%. I'm thinking the same physics apply here. Probably why many prefer lighter cues for breaking.
There's also stiffness, the less the shaft buckles the less energy gets put into the ball.
I don't think anyone argues that it's a ton more energy, some say around 15% more. I don't play with one regularly but when I have they do seem to put some zip on the ball.
speed is the thing. but those saying it propels the balls faster are saying with the same speed of stroke.
golf shafts are a different matter as they flex and give a little elastic effect over the steel shafts of old.
but its the newer balls in golf that have added the distance, not the golf shaft. although a thinner shaft will allow more speed for the clubhead.
and if cf shafts propel 15% more that means everyone that buys one needs to learn to hit all shots 15% slower. which of course is not happening.
because they do not do that. along with learning where to hit shots with english.
golf shafts are a different matter as they flex and give a little elastic effect over the steel shafts of old.
but its the newer balls in golf that have added the distance, not the golf shaft. although a thinner shaft will allow more speed for the clubhead.
and if cf shafts propel 15% more that means everyone that buys one needs to learn to hit all shots 15% slower. which of course is not happening.
because they do not do that. along with learning where to hit shots with english.
I am not going to get into a long winded argument in regards to what a carbon fiber pool shaft does vs a wood one. I play a with a laminated glued together low deflection wood shaft & it works just fine.
Now onto the golf clubs.
If you were to test two drivers side by side with the same loft, shaft, flex, length, overall weight, hitting the same ball etc. For example the new Callaway Quantum vs last year's model Elyte. Have a robot hit each and every shot.
The difference if any that will be seen in coming from the club head increasing ball speed which turns in the distance increase.
only 3 ways that the club head can increase the distance the ball goes from it.
1 added weight more mass
2 more speed as it hits the ball
3 some form of elasticity so it rebounds and propels the ball as would say a sling shot.
a rubber ball bounces faster off a bat than a wooden ball and that is the elastic of the ball rebounding.
that is why the newer golf balls hit farther so drives are longer than of old. as well as the strength of the players who can certainly swing faster than before.
1 added weight more mass
2 more speed as it hits the ball
3 some form of elasticity so it rebounds and propels the ball as would say a sling shot.
a rubber ball bounces faster off a bat than a wooden ball and that is the elastic of the ball rebounding.
that is why the newer golf balls hit farther so drives are longer than of old. as well as the strength of the players who can certainly swing faster than before.
Look up Tri-Force Face technology from Callaway & get back to everyone.
Golf ball design has lowered spin & transferred more energy off the clubface in comparison to the old balata balls. Combine that with the modern face technology in golf club design along with much better built lighter weight graphite shafts, players who are stronger & more fit. Then put it all together with players using launch monitors to optimize launch angles and spin rates.
This is why distance is increasing.
When real world results prove company claims then the suspect is removed.
Keep trying great Maha.