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    Cue ball close to object balls

    I don't think my reference was misleading at all. I took, in my view, the most likely intent of how the rule is written. I also believed, and stated, that the rule is, in my opinion, written a bit poorly. So, when things like this come down to radically different interpretations of the same...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    I looked at that shot a bunch of times. I really wish they had an overhead view. It looked to me like there was just a bit more room than the first look. The close view of the one and eight looked like there was a not impossible gap between the OB and cushion, and the safety moved the OB out...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    I play with people who double hit all the time. It drives me batty. This whole thread started when I was discussing a player telling me I should make a shot that there was no way I couldn't double hit. I told him that and he got extremely angry and brought over others who were agreeing with...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    I was editing.a clearer explanation when you answered. It doesn't work to my benefit because I don't like that rule and I will do anything legal to avoid a double hit, even if this rule allows it. However, it doesn't change that the rule is there and used exactly how I described it. If I...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    The way I read this, and I think I'm right, the "may" only refers to that it applies if two conditions are met, thin hit and legal object ball. If those conditions are met, it is not a double hit. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    Sounds about right. I know for sue that I found it much later than that, so I must have gotten a hold of old rules. Around here people,are still quoting that one. Other searches show quite a few discussions on this forum that refer to this rule as of around two years ago, as being in use...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    Where I got my information was both the BCA and WPA rulebooks. However, I was having trouble locating the rule again. Once I know a rule cold, I don't tend to look it up every time the situation arises, so I was surprised that I couldn't find it. Then I did a Google search for "billiards foul...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    It really only applies to very soft hits. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    Hitting toward the object ball that close, the general rule is that if the cue ball rolls over one half its diameter toward where the object ball was, then it is a foul. Hitting at a thinner angle changes that call. Some orgs rules state that the shot must be hit with the cue elevated 45...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    Actually, with a very thin cut, a hit on the outside of the cue ball can double hit without a sudden change of direction. It is usually a very subtle foul. Again, the foul can usually be avoided by hitting the inside of the cue ball, and the cue will pass between both balls. Generally, a...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    I'm going to try that! I don't have a clear picture of it in my head, but I'll look on line to try to figure out what it's all about. You are very right when you say there are technique exceptions to just about everything, and I'm always looking to learn new ways to have fun with the game.
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    He just might decide to not play me, though he gets so angry when someone corrects him that he starts yelling, really loud. Loud enough to catch the attention of everyone in a large pool room and adjoining bar. The staff, some of whom play him from time to time say "he's a very angry old man"...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    Good stuff. I've used the hand against the table stop to avoid double hits for a long time, and it's certainly worth repeating, especially since it is an exception to the chalk width assumed foul. Jim
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    Thanks! That info bears out exactly how I understand the rules. I've refereed a lot of games played under BCA rules, and most of the double hit rulings come from either experience (knowing that a certain position of the balls and the cue position and stroke WILL cause a double hit) or the...
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    Cue ball close to object balls

    In the real pool world, to not foul you actually have to not foul, not just look like you are trying not to. I just read through most of the BCAPL rules. Man, are they insane for allowing what would be fouls in the BCA rules I try to play by. They allow pushes and double hits in situations...
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