Used predator 4k3 and wrapless black P2 for sale. Both have Z shafts. The P2 shaft is a 30" shaft. The 4k3 has joint protectors. The 4k3 shaft has a pressed elk master and the P2 shaft has a sniper on it. Uni loc joints.
The cues have dings. It is especially noticeable with the black P2 butt...
I'm not sure if i know the difference. If you can pm me your e-mail address i can take a video of it and send it to you. I'm not too savvy with cue descriptions.