APA League Question

Bigdaddi44

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I play n a APA league. We won or division and are eligible to go to Vegas for the championships. My operator however tells us that in order to get the registrations sent by him, we have to sign up for the next session. Is this something that anyone else has experience with this? I think if we them team and players have paid the dues, won the playoffs and qualified for the tournament; we should'nt have to play the next session if we don't want to. To me its like buying a beer and telling I can't drink until I buy the next one first.
 
First of all, nobody, anywhere, is qualified for the 2026 World Pool Championships in Vegas. I suggest you read about World Qualifiers and qualified teams in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws, both available from your Pool League app. There are also ways to lose qualification - remember, forewarned is forearmed.

we should'nt have to play the next session if we don't want to. To me its like buying a beer and telling I can't drink until I buy the next one first.
Except a beer doesn't have a skill level. Qualified teams are required to remain active so your League Operator can keep an eye on your skill levels. Otherwise, you could all quit playing in the league, take lessons for five months, and show up at the World Qualifier with skill levels that are way too low. Again, I suggest reading all about it in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws.
 
I play n a APA league. We won or division and are eligible to go to Vegas for the championships. My operator however tells us that in order to get the registrations sent by him, we have to sign up for the next session. Is this something that anyone else has experience with this? I think if we them team and players have paid the dues, won the playoffs and qualified for the tournament; we should'nt have to play the next session if we don't want to. To me its like buying a beer and telling I can't drink until I buy the next one first.
Even when you win you have to stay playing in the league to remain qualified. We won a trip for masters and had to play one more session because nationals happened about a month after the league ended. Apa is a business and it’s how they keep you locked in lol
 
First of all, nobody, anywhere, is qualified for the 2026 World Pool Championships in Vegas. I suggest you read about World Qualifiers and qualified teams in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws, both available from your Pool League app. There are also ways to lose qualification - remember, forewarned is forearmed.


Except a beer doesn't have a skill level. Qualified teams are required to remain active so your League Operator can keep an eye on your skill levels. Otherwise, you could all quit playing in the league, take lessons for five months, and show up at the World Qualifier with skill levels that are way too low. Again, I suggest reading all about it in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws.
It’s not just about skill level.. it’s also about money. I went for masters and we had to stay playing and our skill levels didn’t matter.
 
I play n a APA league. We won or division and are eligible to go to Vegas for the championships. My operator however tells us that in order to get the registrations sent by him, we have to sign up for the next session. Is this something that anyone else has experience with this? I think if we them team and players have paid the dues, won the playoffs and qualified for the tournament; we should'nt have to play the next session if we don't want to. To me its like buying a beer and telling I can't drink until I buy the next one first.
What you probably did was to qualify for the "Vegas Qualifier", or "World Qualifier" which happens once each year prior to the Team Championships each August in Las Vegas. You probably won the Tri-Cup, or Tri-annual, whatever it's called in your area. And just as you, and the other players on your team, had to achieve a specific number of matches to be eligible for playoffs, including the Tri-Cup, and including the Vegas Qualifier, you need to be on an active roster to qualify for play in any tournaments based upon league play.

First of all, nobody, anywhere, is qualified for the 2026 World Pool Championships in Vegas. I suggest you read about World Qualifiers and qualified teams in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws, both available from your Pool League app. There are also ways to lose qualification - remember, forewarned is forearmed.


Except a beer doesn't have a skill level. Qualified teams are required to remain active so your League Operator can keep an eye on your skill levels. Otherwise, you could all quit playing in the league, take lessons for five months, and show up at the World Qualifier with skill levels that are way too low. Again, I suggest reading all about it in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws.
Please read, and re-read the above. It's on you, and/or your team captain, to be aware of the rules, and abide by them. This includes whatever local by-laws exist for your league. These rules and by-laws are available to you, and your team members, so read and understand them. Game rules are detailed, but most end up earning about a rule after being burned by it. The Team Manual is available here:
Get familiar with the sections preceding the game rules too. It'll only help you.
Apa is a business
When I'm asked for the logic behind some rules or requirements, this is my standard answer. It's the same for all the other leagues to one extent or another. The business model is genius when you view it from that perspective, and they truly do enforce the rules at the higher level competitions, even if your local league matches don't. The benefit of qualifying for the higher level, or advanced tournaments, along with the things that go along with those qualifications, also require your continued participation. They are not "open" tournaments.
 
It’s not just about skill level.. it’s also about money. I went for masters and we had to stay playing and our skill levels didn’t matter.
For the Showdown Series, it's more about rewarding our most loyal customers than it is about money. For Masters especially, the last thing APA wants is for players who play weekly and enjoy the product to be shut out of the Vegas Showdown events by someone who plays only occasionally, comes in and swipes the slot, then disappears again. That's also why those events and the minimania tournaments require a higher number of matches played to be eligible. In some respects, loyalty equates to money but I think, even if we lived in Star Trek times where money is not necessary the scarcity of the slots would lead to stronger eligibility requirements for these events. Requirements to be on a Summer team (rather than just Spring, when those events are now held) I believe are now leftovers from the recent past, when those events were held at the end of Summer.
 
First of all, nobody, anywhere, is qualified for the 2026 World Pool Championships in Vegas. I suggest you read about World Qualifiers and qualified teams in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws, both available from your Pool League app. There are also ways to lose qualification - remember, forewarned is forearmed.


Except a beer doesn't have a skill level. Qualified teams are required to remain active so your League Operator can keep an eye on your skill levels. Otherwise, you could all quit playing in the league, take lessons for five months, and show up at the World Qualifier with skill levels that are way too low. Again, I suggest reading all about it in the Official Team Manual and your area's local bylaws.
False.
Some people are MUCH better at beer than others.
 
It’s not just about skill level.. it’s also about money. I went for masters and we had to stay playing and our skill levels didn’t matter.
I don't think there are skill levels in masters, everyone plays even.
It's a mix of both 8 and 9 ball, and it's real 9 ball, not the ball count version, but no handicap, you just play a race to 7.
 
I don't think there are skill levels in masters, everyone plays even.
It's a mix of both 8 and 9 ball, and it's real 9 ball, not the ball count version, but no handicap, you just play a race to 7.
That’s what I said lol re read it 😂😂 And I’ve been to nationals twice for masters so I’m well aware how it works.

To give you an example this year when we won to goto nationals our apa masters league fell apart and we almost didn’t have a league. They wanted us to drive over an hour away to play in another areas masters to stay qualified and I was refusing. I was fine not going to Vegas again. It sucks now anyway lol why should I be out of my trip to Vegas because the league fell apart. I understand in the rest of apa you need people to keep playing so their handicap is proper but masters has no handicaps . So to me it’s just a money grab and I wasn’t going to do it. In the end they scraped together enough teams to keep it together for one more session
 
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What you probably did was to qualify for the "Vegas Qualifier", or "World Qualifier" which happens once each year prior to the Team Championships each August in Las Vegas. You probably won the Tri-Cup, or Tri-annual, whatever it's called in your area. And just as you, and the other players on your team, had to achieve a specific number of matches to be eligible for playoffs, including the Tri-Cup, and including the Vegas Qualifier, you need to be on an active roster to qualify for play in any tournaments based upon league play.


Please read, and re-read the above. It's on you, and/or your team captain, to be aware of the rules, and abide by them. This includes whatever local by-laws exist for your league. These rules and by-laws are available to you, and your team members, so read and understand them. Game rules are detailed, but most end up earning about a rule after being burned by it. The Team Manual is available here:
Get familiar with the sections preceding the game rules too. It'll only help you.

When I'm asked for the logic behind some rules or requirements, this is my standard answer. It's the same for all the other leagues to one extent or another. The business model is genius when you view it from that perspective, and they truly do enforce the rules at the higher level competitions, even if your local league matches don't. The benefit of qualifying for the higher level, or advanced tournaments, along with the things that go along with those qualifications, also require your continued participation. They are not "open" tournaments.
I didn’t say it’s a bad business . It’s a great business model and I enjoy it but they act like it’s not.. it’s all about family…it’s not about money . Nooooo you bought this franchise and it puts food on your table and a roof over your head. It’s a business. Stop the nonsense,
 
I didn’t say it’s a bad business . It’s a great business model and I enjoy it but they act like it’s not.. it’s all about family…it’s not about money . Nooooo you bought this franchise and it puts food on your table and a roof over your head. It’s a business. Stop the nonsense,
I don't think APA has ever denied that it's a business. I know I haven't. I would never do what I do if there wasn't something in it for me. But to our customers, it should be all about fun with friends and family, even the occasional stranger with whom you have something in common. If it's not, then why spend the money? So we stress the fun aspect with customers and potential customers. How would you grow your business?
 
That’s what I said lol re read it 😂😂 And I’ve been to nationals twice for masters so I’m well aware how it works.

To give you an example this year when we won to goto nationals our apa masters league fell apart and we almost didn’t have a league. They wanted us to drive over an hour away to play in another areas masters to stay qualified and I was refusing. I was fine not going to Vegas again. It sucks now anyway lol why should I be out of my trip to Vegas because the league fell apart. I understand in the rest of apa you need people to keep playing so their handicap is proper but masters has no handicaps . So to me it’s just a money grab and I wasn’t going to do it. In the end they scraped together enough teams to keep it together for one more session
I like the Master's format, but my area doesn't have a Master's league either. I've played in a couple Master's tournaments with a couple friends from our league, and I believe that they treated those like qualifiers for the trip to Vegas, but it was in combination with one or two other adjoining APA leagues that also don't have Master's leagues. We did well, but just not quite well enough, LOL.

I think there are some work-arounds that the national people, and the league operators, can put together, especially for situations like yours. Don't really know for sure though. I'm not a league operator, and don't know much about that aspect, but I know my league operator puts a lot of time and effort in. For Master's part of Vegas, which was in April/May, I was there as a referee, but I was assigned to the mini mania area so didn't even get to watch much of it.
 
I like the Master's format, but my area doesn't have a Master's league either. I've played in a couple Master's tournaments with a couple friends from our league, and I believe that they treated those like qualifiers for the trip to Vegas, but it was in combination with one or two other adjoining APA leagues that also don't have Master's leagues. We did well, but just not quite well enough, LOL.

I think there are some work-arounds that the national people, and the league operators, can put together, especially for situations like yours. Don't really know for sure though. I'm not a league operator, and don't know much about that aspect, but I know my league operator puts a lot of time and effort in. For Master's part of Vegas, which was in April/May, I was there as a referee, but I was assigned to the mini mania area so didn't even get to watch much of it.
We played a team that didn’t even have to play a qualifier. It was the 4 best players he sent to Vegas for other tournaments so he put them in masters. Lol the first time I went to masters there was a league. There was just a tournament .. $125 entry fee. Winner winter Vegas. I was just there in April/may 👍
 
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