Jump Bridges?

SeniorTom said:
I am wondering if either of these items are legal to use in competition? Has anybody tried either of these? If so what is your opinion?


Amazon.com: Jump Bridge - pool and billiards mechanical jump bridge : Sports & Outdoors

Amazon.com: Jump Bridge - pool and billiards mechanical jump bridge : Sports & Outdoors
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I remember seeing one, Years ago...was good for when cue ball was very close to the ball being jumped-you bridge head flexed and the cue could easily rest at a very highly elevated postition and no wobble and worked pretty good...i dont think it caught on
 
Thank you guys, I'm a decent jumper, but have trouble on close in jumps. Strange, I have large hands but can't seem to get a stable bridge going, causing me to make poor contact. I can close in Jump maybe 30% of the time, and long jumps, when there is a bit of distance between what I am jumping over, is very easy for me. I am quite determined to learn, and wondering if these will help me out. I actually have both ordered on Amazon and we'll get them this Monday to try out.
 
Fore Rail said:
Jump devices are not legal in BCAPL & VNEA.

1-3 Use of Equipment

CSI reserves the right to prohibit any equipment it deems untested or inappropriate, orthat has not been evaluated by the CSI National Office.1. You are responsible for all equipment and accessory items you bring to the table (ARp. 79). You may not use equipment or accessory items in a manner other than their intended use.

Specifically

e. You may not shoot while using any item to support or elevate your bridge hand.

VNEA specifically says Devices Are Not Allowed For Jump Shots.
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Those bridges do not "support or elevate your bridge hand".

Perfectly legal.
 
straightline said:
You mean your bridge hand cannot be supported or elevated by jackstands? Nuther dumass rule. You could easily market finger stilts. What are these guys trying to own anyway?
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Thank you for your post, I appreciate it, but having a bit of difficulty understanding it. Are you in agreement that these particular bridges are legal, or illegal?
 
SeniorTom said:
Thank you for your post, I appreciate it, but having a bit of difficulty understanding it. Are you in agreement that these particular bridges are legal, or illegal?
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I think the rule is bogus. I would use them if they worked. The tight V opening might bind if the stick angle is too close to level.

Legal? Ask the officials per event.
 
straightline said:
I think the rule is bogus. I would use them if they worked. The tight V opening might bind if the stick angle is too close to level.

Legal? Ask the officials per event.
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What rule?

I can't speak to VNEA which appears to use some kind of proprietary rules unique to their league, but the WPA/BCA/CSI rules are consistent and clear.

The bridges themselves are perfectly legal.
 
David in FL said:
What rule?
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e. You may not shoot while using any item to support or elevate your bridge hand.

VNEA specifically says Devices Are Not Allowed For Jump Shots.

Skwoo dem whoever they are.

I'd use anything that would get sufficient bridge elevation. I've used magic markers - awkward but they'll do the job. Any kind of wrist support that would get your bridge hand from 4 to 12 inches off the table is fine with me.
 
straightline said:
e. You may not shoot while using any item to support or elevate your bridge hand.

VNEA specifically says Devices Are Not Allowed For Jump Shots.

Skwoo dem whoever they are.

I'd use anything that would get sufficient bridge elevation. I've used magic markers - awkward but they'll do the job. Any kind of wrist support that would get your bridge hand from 4 to 12 inches off the table is fine with me.
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Again, the bridge is not used to support or elevate your bridge hand. It supports and elevates the cue itself. Like any other mechanical bridge.

Perfectly legal.
 
David in FL said:
Again, the bridge is not used to support or elevate your bridge hand. It supports and elevates the cue itself. Like any other mechanical bridge.

Perfectly legal.
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Yeah I know. Doesn't excuse the dum rule. Have you tried it? Those narrow slots could bind, The small ones on the moose will if you aren't perpendicular.
 
straightline said:
Yeah I know. Doesn't excuse the dum rule. Have you tried it? Those narrow slots could bind, The small ones on the moose will if you aren't perpendicular.
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If you read my first post you'll see that I've actually used the ez jumper to teach people how to jump if they're struggling to get the elevation necessary with their own bridge hand.

No binding at all on that one.

Why is it a silly rule? The rule is consistent in that it follows the other rules that don't allow any piece of equipment (a regular bridge for instance) to support or elevate your bridge hand.
 
David in FL said:
Why is it a silly rule? The rule is consistent in that it follows the other rules that don't allow any piece of equipment (a regular bridge for instance) to support or elevate your bridge hand.
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It's not silly it's stupid. It serves no purpose and just impedes evolution of play.
 
David in FL said:
Again, the bridge is not used to support or elevate your bridge hand. It supports and elevates the cue itself. Like any other mechanical bridge.

Perfectly legal.
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This is how I interpret the rule that's being questioned. In that case, the bridge hand is not even being used, but just the mechanical bridge itself. When players use a standard bridge, those attached to a longish stick, your normal bridge hand can be a elevated a couple of feet on the end of the bridge stick. Personally, I think it means that you can't set your bridge hand on top of a mechanical bridge to elevate your hand bridge, and shoot that way. i think?
 
straightline said:
It's not silly it's stupid. It serves no purpose and just impedes evolution of play.
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What do you mean by impeding "evolution of play"?

How does the rule applied to jump shots do that?

Does a prohibition of using other outside equipment to raise or elevate your bridge hand also "impede evolution of play"?

I'm genuinely trying to understand your point...
 
SeniorTom said:
This is how I interpret the rule that's being questioned. In that case, the bridge hand is not even being used, but just the mechanical bridge itself. When players use a standard bridge, those attached to a longish stick, your normal bridge hand can be a elevated a couple of feet on the end of the bridge stick. Personally, I think it means that you can't set your bridge hand on top of a mechanical bridge to elevate your hand bridge, and shoot that way. i think?
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Exactly. Just like you can't use a piece of chalk on the rail to get your bridge hand higher...
 
David in FL said:
What do you mean by impeding "evolution of play"?

How does the rule applied to jump shots do that?

Does a prohibition of using other outside equipment to raise or elevate your bridge hand also "impede evolution of play"?

I'm genuinely trying to understand your point...
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Worst case example: free hand masse. More would learn how and moreover likely develop superior control. Ditto for the range of jumps.
 
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