4-6 point cues with colored veneers and linen wraps are my favorite

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Lowell

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In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?
 
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Lowell said:
In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?
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I haven't seen a joss with sharp points in a while. Not claiming to be an expert on them, only saying that all of them I have seen are inlaid, rounded points.
 
Lowell said:
In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?
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Any pointed cue from a decent maker will be above $800
 
I might have picked up a Joss cue fitting that description from PoolDawg. For less than 800. But then we’d have the same cue. 😉

Many of the Joss cues don’t fit that description. And the points are skinnier than the old full splice. But mine is 4 sharp points, veneers, linen wrap, notched diamond inlays.
 
JPB2 said:
I might have picked up a Joss cue fitting that description from PoolDawg. For less than 800. But then we’d have the same cue. 😉

Many of the Joss cues don’t fit that description. And the points are skinnier than the old full splice. But mine is 4 sharp points, veneers, linen wrap, notched diamond inlays.
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There are two on PoolDawg that fit the description, they're on my radar too.
 
I see what you are saying but I think the veneered ones are sharp. The main point can look a little rounded but they avoid the look you get with the rounded veneer ones you see on some cnc points. The construction of the cue is not old school splice, which we can argue about. But building them on a core I think leads to a good, solid feeling cue. I’m not dogging on full splice or short splice cues, I like them. Just saying some of the new Joss cues look good to me and I often like classic looking cues.
 
JPB2 said:
I see what you are saying but I think the veneered ones are sharp. The main point can look a little rounded but they avoid the look you get with the rounded veneer ones you see on some cnc points. The construction of the cue is not old school splice, which we can argue about. But building them on a core I think leads to a good, solid feeling cue. I’m not dogging on full splice or short splice cues, I like them. Just saying some of the new Joss cues look good to me and I often like classic looking cues.
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Yeah, I think the ones with the colored veneers are sharper than the less expensive ones with only black points.
 
JPB2 said:
I see what you are saying but I think the veneered ones are sharp. The main point can look a little rounded but they avoid the look you get with the rounded veneer ones you see on some cnc points. The construction of the cue is not old school splice, which we can argue about. But building them on a core I think leads to a good, solid feeling cue. I’m not dogging on full splice or short splice cues, I like them. Just saying some of the new Joss cues look good to me and I often like classic looking cues.
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you can get sharp points with CNC inlays. I don't get why they the big American brands use cheap machines that can't get the job done.
Bill McDaniel made sharp CNC points 30 years ago (if not before), you have Asian cheap cues that have sharp points (real inlay) like this Elite cue (I actually have it) that looks very nice.
The only thing I don't like about my Schon cues is the rounded points, but they play great... so I try to ignore them.
I'm pretty sure that Joss can custom make a cue for you with sharp points and a design that you like.
 
Lowell said:
In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?
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when was last time you shopped custom cues? i ask because most decent makers charge close to 2k for a 4pt. With any inlays in buttsleeve it gets even pricier. call Cody Cash, PK Custom Cues, and ask him. I think he'd make you a simple 4pt for 1600ish. go on his FB page, he's got a lot of good pics. Super builder, even better dude. 316-993-8961 UPDATE: i contacted CC and he said around 1400. good price for sure.
 
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I don't get why they the big American brands use cheap machines that can't get the job done.
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I'd hazard a guess that it's both the type of tooling used and there's probably less chance of the points being uneven when the points aren't as sharp.

Even if I'm completely wrong, it would probably be a good discussion on Ask the Cuemaker.
 
Lowell said:
In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?
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Oh my, I know that Joss can build a very beautiful, and sharp pointed Custom (surely not for under $1,000 though, lol), but their Production line just looked so generic, and ugly, in my opinion. Very generic looking Rounded points, and the Curly Maple they put into their forearms looks to be very low grade. What happened to the nicely BEM that they used to put in their cues, maybe 25+ years ago? I guess it is all gone, or they save it for their incredibly overpriced Customs.
 
JPB2 said:
I might have picked up a Joss cue fitting that description from PoolDawg. For less than 800. But then we’d have the same cue. 😉

Many of the Joss cues don’t fit that description. And the points are skinnier than the old full splice. But mine is 4 sharp points, veneers, linen wrap, notched diamond inlays.
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I see that on many Joss cues, with veneers, the inner points are sharp, but the very last outer veneer is Rounded off. This is the same way that it was done on older Joss cues, and JossWest, and Kikel, to name another example.
 
I think that's one characteristic of old Meucci cues that I love. Very sharp, full-splice points with a variety of colorful veneers to suit a wide range of preferences. Some designs are better than others, but I certainly prefer the old ones with a somewhat modest look. Lots of inlays can often look far too flashy - style over substance.
 
Lowell said:
In terms of appearance think my favorite style of cue is:

-4, 5 , or 6 sharp, colored points (not floating)
-linen wrap, especially with color or speckle
-substantial but not overly busy inlay work

I particularly like when the butt sleeve has some sort of rounded motif, like ovals to balance out the sharpness of the points (and pointy inlays like diamonds, when present).

Joss seems to be the only production cue company that still makes these, though the ones that fit the bill are all over $800. I figure I'll treat myself next black Friday if there is anything on sale at Seybert's. Are there any other cuemakers who make these sort of cues for less than say, $1000 (or slightly above)?
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I personally like this one, for under $1k.

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Joss 10-13 - Joss Cues - Family owned - Handmade since 1968

Joss 10-13 has highly figured curly maple each point has a pearl diamond matched in the rear.Intricate design work makes this cue a showpiece.
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The only thing I do not really care for is the Curly Maple that they seem to use in all of their cues these days.
 
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