Savannah “The RoadRunner” Easton using a wood shaft?

[maha]

90% of the times that someone is missing a shot is due to deflection. The pivot system is far from being accurate.
With low deflection shaft, once you get used to, you miss less.
You can debate it until the ends of time, you’ll still be wrong…

accordingly to you then with cf shaft a person now will make 90% of the shots he would normally have missed with a wood shaft. i took some liberty from your statement to help make my point.
i believe more misses come from not aiming in the right spot with engish as the object ball doesn't go in the same line as without it. that has nothing to with with deflection.

i would think weaker players might miss many shots when using too much english they dont need for the shot.
just using any english can affect the ease of finding the aim point.

just me with my wood shafts and big tips i hardly ever miss because of deflection. so i may be a bad judge of what deflection does to average players.

 

[skor]

accordingly to you then with cf shaft a person now will make 90% of the shots he would normally have missed with a wood shaft. i took some liberty from your statement to help make my point.
i believe more misses come from not aiming in the right spot with engish as the object ball doesn't go in the same line as without it. that has nothing to with with deflection.

i would think weaker players might miss many shots when using too much english they dont need for the shot.
just using any english can affect the ease of finding the aim point.

just me with my wood shafts and big tips i hardly ever miss because of deflection. so i may be a bad judge of what deflection does to average players.

Most CF shafts are not really low deflection, so that saying is not true.
However, a real low deflection shaft, wood or CF will reduce misses due to deflection either when applying side spin intentionally or unintentionally, it will not reduce misses by 100% but it will.
This is something that most pro players have realized and understood since Predator came out with the 314 shaft, but there will always be an old dog that can’t learn new tricks

 

[maha]

your absolutely right about cf reducing deflection. and i believe it or a substitute for it will be the shaft of the future replacing wood as us old die hards pass.

but deflection is overrated as a problem as can be seen for past greats.

 

[skor]

your absolutely right about cf reducing deflection. and i believe it or a substitute for it will be the shaft of the future replacing wood as us old die hards pass.

but deflection is overrated as a problem as can be seen for past greats.

Past greats would have missed a lot more on today’s equipment with tight pockets.

Snooker players used to use very little side spin due to deflection as they play on big tables with tight pockets.
Nowadays with technology slowly catching up with snooker cues like using titanium ferrules that reduces mass and deflection, the younger players allow themselves to use more side spin.

 

[maha]

granted.

 

[smoochie]

This is simply wrong and unfounded.
There is no magic shaft or other piece of equipment that will make you a better player.
A shaft won’t fix your stroke or aim or timing or your mental game or the ability to see patterns better and so on.

a good cf would actually fix alot of flaws that you've got. we can agree to disagree, but I've put this to a test on many people....in this sport we cannot prove things with science sadly, but it is what it is.

 

[SSP]

I watched some of her play in the Vegas tournament, looks like she is using a wood shaft now and shooting great with it.
She was using a Revo for at least the past few years. I don't know if it's a 314 or Vantage, but she seems to like it!
Nice to see yet another young star realize that wood shafts give better feedback.
Back-to-back Vegas champ, 22 year old Wiktor Zielinski, has always enjoyed his wood 314 wood shaft-- he shoots like the game is almost too easy for him!
I guarantee you that if it weren't for sponsorship money, the vast majority of touring pros would use wood shafts.
Again, to each his own in the cf/wood shaft debate: You think cf is better for you-- use cf.
But for those who still think cf is superior to wood for actually PLAYING POOL, it's not.
Carbon fiber shafts make great break shafts though, that's for sure.

There are wood shafts that transfer the energy from YOUR stroke as efficiently as a CF shaft but they are few and far between, wood changes, wood will never be consistent because it's a natural product, all wood has different grain structures even in the same family of wood, does it make wood bad? No, does it make it inconsistent and liable to change? Yes, the advantage of CF is it can be specifically designed and engineered to propel a cue ball as efficiently as the person striking the cueball as possible, is all CF the same? Absolutely not, Becue has been engineering CF cues and shafts for 10 yrs now, they offer several different shafts that produce several different types of feel or hit if you like, I'm using the Prime II shaft, this shaft does produce feedback, to me it's the perfect blend of transfer of energy and feedback, I have nothing against wood, if you are playing YOUR best pool with wood you should stick with it, I swore I would never use a CF shaft and I didn't lie kinda, I'm using a complete CF cue and playing the best pool of my life

 

[vintagecollectibles831]

I watched some of her play in the Vegas tournament, looks like she is using a wood shaft now and shooting great with it.
She was using a Revo for at least the past few years. I don't know if it's a 314 or Vantage, but she seems to like it!
Nice to see yet another young star realize that wood shafts give better feedback.
Back-to-back Vegas champ, 22 year old Wiktor Zielinski, has always enjoyed his wood 314 wood shaft-- he shoots like the game is almost too easy for him!
I guarantee you that if it weren't for sponsorship money, the vast majority of touring pros would use wood shafts.
Again, to each his own in the cf/wood shaft debate: You think cf is better for you-- use cf.
But for those who still think cf is superior to wood for actually PLAYING POOL, it's not.
Carbon fiber shafts make great break shafts though, that's for sure.

I see that this post is at least 3 years old, but I highly disagree. I was a CF hater too, for the longest time, until I had the opportunity to try out the Whyte Carbon shaft, that a fellow pool player loaned me for a few hours, during a tournament. Up until that point, I had only ever tried out a few CF shafts, from custom pool cue makers, which may have come from very cheap CF tubes from China (but no idea), and my hate for CF was based on my experience with those. The Whyte Carbon was a game changer for me. I never felt so much power, in the feedback, off of the cue ball, if that makes any sense. For example, I could draw the cue ball back, with very little effort. I could really feel how LD the shaft was too, if that makes sense. The feedback was so amazing though. Never felt anything like it, with any Maple shaft I ever tried. So, in my opinion, the Whyte Carbon CF shaft is worth every penny of that high retail price. On the other hand, I have played with a few Jacoby Black shafts, and they hit very nice, but the Whyte Carbon just felt like it was on another level. Did not get the same power / feedback with the Jacoby, for example. Anyways, with that being said, I feel that not all CF shafts are created equal, and they will all probably feel / hit different from each other. Some, probably not nearly as nice as a lot of the good LD Maple shafts out there. But, others, probably far better. Like, the Whyte Carbon, for example. But, that is just my opinion.

 

[Woodshaft]

Wow, I started this thread a few years back and it's still alive for some reason.
Again, to be clear: I don't hate cf. I've just played with wood for over 40 years and am frankly, too used to it.
Lot's of great players shoot with cf. And lots of great players shoot with wood.
I will say this though: if sponsors didn't "push/force" their top players to convert to cf over the past several years, many still probably would be shooting with wood. The profit margin on cf shafts is much larger than on high tech ld wood ones, and money rules.
I break with a radial cf 12.9 revo shaft on predator aspire butt btw, because even wood players know cf is obviously stiffest for breaking.
But I still shoot with a radial (uni-loc QR is garbage imo) predator vantage shaft on a predator sneaky pete butt for the feel/feedback I like.
To each his own folks. Try as many shafts and sizes as you can and pick the one YOU'RE most comfortable with!
Now everyone relax and accept others' personal preferences, and let's play some pools!!!

 

[maha]

if you find your cf shaft has less deflection and thats what you need, then a cf shaft is for you.

if you find it gives you more power or does other things with the cue ball, then you are delusional or just falling for advertising or following the lemmings.