Is my Mali an M-8 or a T-11?

[NathanDetroit]

There is an on-line buyer looking for Mali cues. I showed him my green logo Mali which I believe is a T-11.

I went back to pull a catalog image Wildwing had posted long ago. In that old thread, Wildwing had posted a catalog of the M series. It shows an M-8 nearly identical to the T-11. The description says the M-8 has Macassar ebony prongs vs ebony in the Trophy series 11.

Closer reading of the M series cue description lead to this question because it says that particular cue has a "filled" wrap. My cue has a clear coat over its wrap like Meuccis have. Is that a "filled" wrap?

 

[hang-the-9]

Not to snipe the sale to the other buy, but how much is this going to be sold for? Send me a PM, I am looking for something similar.

 

[WildWing]

That is old, indeed. By the way, I don't think "filled" really means anything. It's impossible to fill linen. It's not like it would have a blood clot in it. In the old days, it probably meant finished, and that's about it. The M series was simply earlier than the T series. The linens are probably about the same. And, to my knowledge, Mali didn't put a clear coat on their wraps.

By the way, the joint collar rings will tell you whether it's an M or T series. M, centered, T, towards the outer.

All the best,
WW

 

[NathanDetroit]

I will check those rings, and get back.

Thanks

 

[NathanDetroit]

Rings say its a T-11.

 

[garczar]

I think that should read 'fleck-filled' as in black-n-white flecked wrap itself and not a coating.

 

[NathanDetroit]

Original owner must have been a Meucci lover:
Clear coat over the wrap, and 5/16×18 pin.

 

[garczar]

Original owner must have been a Meucci lover:
Clear coat over the wrap, and 5/16×18 pin.

They weren't sealed-over originally for sure. Place i used to play in sold Mali's and i never saw one with coated wrap.

 

[NathanDetroit]

My lacquered Mali

 

[WildWing]

Rings say its a T-11.

You are correct.

All the best,
WW

 

[Johnny Rosato]

What years were the Silver Logo Mali's made? I have a BEM Merry Widow that plays fantastic.

 

[garczar]

What years were the Silver Logo Mali's made? I have a BEM Merry Widow that plays fantastic.

http://www.billiardsforum.com/choosing-a-pool-cue/age-of-mali-cue-with-gold-logo Scroll down to dates. 1990's.

 

[Johnny Rosato]

http://www.billiardsforum.com/choosing-a-pool-cue/age-of-mali-cue-with-gold-logo Scroll down to dates. 1990's.

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[garczar]

Pop up said link cannot be displayed.

Funny. I can go straight to it.

 

[Johnny Rosato]

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They both opened now, thank's Bill

 

[11Cues]

I found my way to this thread while trying to identify a Mali I recently picked up, and based on the prior comments and observations here, I believe this one is a T-11 Trophy Series cue.

It has the green Mali logo, four dark points into highly figured maple, stitch rings, a stainless piloted joint, and what appears to be the original shaft. The cue is in exceptionally good condition for its age, with only very minor handling marks.

What really compelled me to reply, though, was the discussion about the linen wrap. This cue also appears to have the linen finished over rather than left raw. The linen texture is still clearly visible, but there is a definite sealed/glossed surface over it, which seems very similar to the wrap treatment discussed earlier in this thread.

Another interesting detail is that the stainless joint collar is engraved lengthwise:

MELVIN “RED” LEEDY

I have not yet been able to determine who he was or whether the cue was specifically ordered for him.

For reference, the cue measures 57¾” assembled and weighs approximately 20.1 oz. The butt rolls flat. The shaft shows some taper roll, but there is no tip lift either separately or assembled.

I thought the finished-over-linen treatment was interesting enough, especially in light of the earlier discussion here, to add this example to the thread.