Is straights making a come back?

Lou Figueroa
Line Up, anyone?

In the ‘80’s we had a guy in his 80’s who would talk about it. Bronco Bob was a tough old coot who looked something like beef jerky. Would talk about the postwar army. Post WWI that is. He liked baseball and spoke of army base baseball in his day. He’d tell the same stories pretty much as I think he was slipping some. Conversations usually started one of two ways. One was his favorite pitcher, Burleigh Grimes. The other was , “ What’s the most balls you’ve seen a man run at lineup straight pool?” Well Bob, I’ve never seen any man play lineup straight pool, so….

“1937 in Tulsa…”. I can’t remember the name or the number other than it was north of 100. I wish I could remember what he said, and I imagine it was one of the last things he forgot. That and “ Any man trusts his life to an automatic pistol is a damn fool, you need a revolver…”
 
Shakespeare’s Hamlet coined the phrase It’s “caviar to the general” public, meaning that a person who had not been introduced to haute cuisine would bridle at the idea that fish eggs are a delicacy.

For the initiated, straight pool is the cat’s pajamas. Do I date myself with that expression? It means straight pool is “the pants on a Roxie usher.” And straight pool is about as out of date as those two expressions.

But it is still gorgeous.

Small story. I was years ago at a straight pool championship in Chicago. I ran into a person I knew but who was from the dark, backward Midwest where they had never seen straight pool. He suggests that we make sweat bets on that day’s matches. He asks me whom I like in the first match. “Lassiter,” I say. He answers, “Yeah, sure. Everybody likes Lassiter. You’d have to give me weight.” Matches are to 150 points. I ask, “Well, how much weight do you need?” He thinks for a second and says, “I’d need thirty-five points.”

Have you ever had a spiritual revelation? I realize in an instant that this guy, who is a really sharp cookie back between Boon and Docks, has no idea what major league straight pool looks like. I, in a previous stage in my life, had been a semi-regular in McGirr’s Billiards on Eighth Avenue, waiting on a bus back to Jersey from the Port Authority, just down the street. I groan and grumble, I hesitate, and I finally, unwillingly concede thirty-five points to Luther Lassiter’s opponent. I realize I have to play this nice and slow. Don’t lose this fish!

I point out to my acquaintance that I have made such a bad bet he should give me a chance to get even. We should probably bet on some of the other matches so I at least have a chance. It’s a round robin. We bet on six more matches. Keep in mind that at this point nobody has as yet stroked a ball in the tournament. The secret has not been revealed. We make six more bets, and in every match I take the favorite and give weight. I don’t remember exactly what the names were, but my stable looks something like Luther Lassiter, Irving Crane, Joe Balsis, Dallas West, a young Jim Rempe, Jack Colavita ( look him up), and Cisero Murphy, in that order. And the most I am spotting anybody is that thirty-five points Lassiter has to overcome. (Yeah, I’ve got Jack Colavita, but you’re getting twenty points on the wire. Good luck feeding your family with that!)

Lassiter now plays the match we have bet on. The horses run true to previous form. My acquaintance sees the outcome. He also sees the winning margin. He evaporates. He becomes a vapor. For the rest of the tournament, he’s nowhere to be seen. What he doesn’t know is that eventually three of my champions wind up spitting the bit and, not overcoming the saddl weight of the point spread, let the other horse poke his nose across the wire first. I can’t believe it. I had a mortal lock, but as we begin the seventh match I am dead even. And I’ve got my money on Cisero Murphy, with whom it is always a question whether his loopy stroke will hold up through one hundred and fifty points,

It does. “Ain’t nuthin’ dead solid perfect,” but I finish one unit ahead.

For another thirty or forty years I would bump into my acquaintance, and never once did he ever mention that we had made several wagers in Chicago, and how did that come out? I don’t think he even watched any of our matches after Lassiter lapped the field. Never a word about any transactions we may have made in The Windy City, and we must have seen one another sixty or seventy times. I never raised the matter. I wanted to see how long he could maintain his guilty silence.

It has occurred to me over the years that the only way the story could have been sweeter would be if Murphy had lost.
I really wish you would post more often.

Per the OP. There was weekly league that I heard folks enjoyed recently in the area. You’ll also see a small tourneys a couple few times in the late fall, winter, or early spring maybe dozen or so players.
 
Shakespeare’s Hamlet coined the phrase It’s “caviar to the general” public, meaning that a person who had not been introduced to haute cuisine would bridle at the idea that fish eggs are a delicacy.

For the initiated, straight pool is the cat’s pajamas. Do I date myself with that expression? It means straight pool is “the pants on a Roxie usher.” And straight pool is about as out of date as those two expressions.

But it is still gorgeous.

Small story. I was years ago at a straight pool championship in Chicago. I ran into a person I knew but who was from the dark, backward Midwest where they had never seen straight pool. He suggests that we make sweat bets on that day’s matches. He asks me whom I like in the first match. “Lassiter,” I say. He answers, “Yeah, sure. Everybody likes Lassiter. You’d have to give me weight.” Matches are to 150 points. I ask, “Well, how much weight do you need?” He thinks for a second and says, “I’d need thirty-five points.”

Have you ever had a spiritual revelation? I realize in an instant that this guy, who is a really sharp cookie back between Boon and Docks, has no idea what major league straight pool looks like. I, in a previous stage in my life, had been a semi-regular in McGirr’s Billiards on Eighth Avenue, waiting on a bus back to Jersey from the Port Authority, just down the street. I groan and grumble, I hesitate, and I finally, unwillingly concede thirty-five points to Luther Lassiter’s opponent. I realize I have to play this nice and slow. Don’t lose this fish!

I point out to my acquaintance that I have made such a bad bet he should give me a chance to get even. We should probably bet on some of the other matches so I at least have a chance. It’s a round robin. We bet on six more matches. Keep in mind that at this point nobody has as yet stroked a ball in the tournament. The secret has not been revealed. We make six more bets, and in every match I take the favorite and give weight. I don’t remember exactly what the names were, but my stable looks something like Luther Lassiter, Irving Crane, Joe Balsis, Dallas West, a young Jim Rempe, Jack Colavita ( look him up), and Cisero Murphy, in that order. And the most I am spotting anybody is that thirty-five points Lassiter has to overcome. (Yeah, I’ve got Jack Colavita, but you’re getting twenty points on the wire. Good luck feeding your family with that!)

Lassiter now plays the match we have bet on. The horses run true to previous form. My acquaintance sees the outcome. He also sees the winning margin. He evaporates. He becomes a vapor. For the rest of the tournament, he’s nowhere to be seen. What he doesn’t know is that eventually three of my champions wind up spitting the bit and, not overcoming the saddl weight of the point spread, let the other horse poke his nose across the wire first. I can’t believe it. I had a mortal lock, but as we begin the seventh match I am dead even. And I’ve got my money on Cisero Murphy, with whom it is always a question whether his loopy stroke will hold up through one hundred and fifty points,

It does. “Ain’t nuthin’ dead solid perfect,” but I finish one unit ahead.

For another thirty or forty years I would bump into my acquaintance, and never once did he ever mention that we had made several wagers in Chicago, and how did that come out? I don’t think he even watched any of our matches after Lassiter lapped the field. Never a word about any transactions we may have made in The Windy City, and we must have seen one another sixty or seventy times. I never raised the matter. I wanted to see how long he could maintain his guilty silence.

It has occurred to me over the years that the only way the story could have been sweeter would be if Murphy had lost.
Excellent tale bro!!
Your fish reminds me of 80% of the hangers on in halls and venues across the country.
All blow and no show.
Be amazing to go thru life that clueless. Just can't imagine...
 
anyway back to the question.. is york unusual or is anyone else seeing the game starting to rise in popularity again?
When Bobby D's Billiards was open in Waynesboro, Pa, say 10+ years ago, it was "The" Game. It was Straight Pool probably 80% of the time, other 20% 9-ball. No one here plays it anymore, no 9 footers. Brian.
 
Watching big talent run big numbers is fun to watch. Watching a nip-n-tuck safety battle is like chinese water torture. It is a great game and fun to play but modern audiences will barely watch pool at all much less straights.

if the players are absolutely lethal if they get a glimpse, the safety game can be tense and interesting. same in one pocket, the moving is less interesting if the players can't run 8 and out anyway
 
I think you'll see it still played out here in NJ/NYC area often enough among amateurs. But I wouldn't call it "popular." Not sure about its popularity in Europe.
They play a harder game of straight pool called snooker :)
The problem is that except perhaps on the East Coast, maybe Chicago, there is no tradition of 14.1 -- it has died out.

Players today don't even have a clue about the game -- it's gone.

Lou Figueroa
Line Up, anyone?
your not wrong .. I play in an apa 9 ball league and said I was playing in a straight pool league and they looked at me like I had bats coming out of my ears.
I like it and we were told to play it as beginners so we’d learn some things. That said, it is dead in the US pretty much. We had a schedule your own league that didn’t really work. They might try to resurrect it with a different schedule. And we’ll get 15 players, maybe more, in a city smaller than Houston. Houston, a huge city, has 15 or so as posted above. I don’t see it getting popular; if it survives at all that would be good.
That’s what we have and it has 40 players. You have a schedule but you can play anyone anytime. They have a big schedule on the wall so you know who’s playing when. A retired guy runs it so he stops in the club every day to update it. You just have to get all your games in by a certain date if you want to qualify for the playoffs and it’s an all cash pay out. They run them back to back. As soon as one league ends the new one begins in a few weeks.
 
I really wish you would post more often.

Per the OP. There was weekly league that I heard folks enjoyed recently in the area. You’ll also see a small tourneys a couple few times in the late fall, winter, or early spring maybe dozen or so players.
I heard the league in Lancaster has a tournament every year.. they do short races to 50 to get it all in.
When Bobby D's Billiards was open in Waynesboro, Pa, say 10+ years ago, it was "The" Game. It was Straight Pool probably 80% of the time, other 20% 9-ball. No one here plays it anymore, no 9 footers. Brian.
I hear ya man.. they only 9 footers you find in york (im not far from you) are in private clubs or you have to go up to Harrisburg or over to Lancaster.
 
Anyone I work with I tell them to practice straight pool it will improve every aspect of your game. The greatest thing is the smile on there face after they run there 1st 2nd and following RACKS ! Greatest Game ever IMHO
 
The problem is that except perhaps on the East Coast, maybe Chicago, there is no tradition of 14.1 -- it has died out.

Players today don't even have a clue about the game -- it's gone.

Lou Figueroa
Line Up, anyone?
I'd be all in if someone started a league or tourney around here.
Alas, I'm afraid it remains a dream.
 
There is a league in Houston that plays at Bogies West. They have about 15 players. Off and on there has been a league at legends in league city. Other than that 14.1 sitings are just myths like big foot or the Loch Ness monster.
I heard Bigfoot gave mountain man the 8.😉
 
I just learned of some straight pool at Royal Billiards in Wilmington, Delaware. I don't know if it's a league or a regular tournament. I'm within striking distance of Wilmington, so I plan to check it out soon.
 
Can’t count the number of times I’ve been practicing 14.1 and had someone come up to me and ask why I was breaking that way.

Lou Figueroa
 
Says a LOT when the WPA has no WorldChampionship for it. There are pockets of activity but overall its just a sideline/niche game.
 
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