Simple way to convert srew-in tips cues to glued tips cues

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Amaury

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Hello,

i have 5 Dufferin cues with screw in tips. I wish to put glued tips instead on it, but I don't have a lathe. What would you do? Pay somebody to change the ferrules, or just fill the holes with something like epoxy, sand, then glue the tips? Asking because of course, I don't want to pay much.

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Using a miter saw, cut square across the ferrule just below the threaded insert. Sand the exposed ferrule and wood core flat and square. Apply the new tip with superglue gel. Follow Dr. Dave's tip replacement video for trimming, sanding and shaping the tip. See how it plays. If you like it better than the screw on tips, do the rest of them.

Electric miter saws and plastic do not get along well, so I suggest that you use a hand saw with a fine blade (perhaps a hack saw). The cut does not have to be perfect, as you can sand it flat and square.

There is the risk of sub-optimal outcome, but since you have 5 of them, it may be worth the risk. If you pay someone with a lathe, the 5 replacements may be $150, or thereabouts.
 
Not Dead Ted said:
Using a miter saw, cut square across the ferrule just below the threaded insert. Sand the exposed ferrule and wood core flat and square. Apply the new tip with superglue gel. Follow Dr. Dave's tip replacement video for trimming, sanding and shaping the tip. See how it plays. If you like it better than the screw on tips, do the rest of them.

Electric miter saws and plastic do not get along well, so I suggest that you use a hand saw with a fine blade (perhaps a hack saw). The cut does not have to be perfect, as you can sand it flat and square.

There is the risk of sub-optimal outcome, but since you have 5 of them, it may be worth the risk. If you pay someone with a lathe, the 5 replacements may be $150, or thereabouts.
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They come off pretty easy with just a box cutter or an exacto knife. I wouldnt use a saw or power tool.
 
what about something like that? bad idea?
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Amaury said:
what about something like that? bad idea?
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The faster it cuts the faster you can make a mess of it. If it were me and the ferules looked like they were square cut I would fill the holes with epoxy, tough it up with a little sandpaper and glue the tips on. The more material you remove the easier it will be to make it kittywhumpas. It wont be so easy ton square the end on a tapered shaft.
 
If you want to keep it cheap... Try to glue tips on. If they fail you can go to the next step (replacing ferrules). If you have never put a tip on practice on a small dowel. Practice trimming, shaping, etc. You will learn by doing. Face and clean the ferrules with an alcohol pad before gluing. Rough up the glue side of the tip. Use masking tape to cover ferrule when gluing and remove immediately.

There are plenty of uTube videos about applying a tip without a lathe. Purchase a cheap tip kit.
 
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Amaury said:
what about something like that? bad idea?
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You could use a Dremel with a plastic cutting blade, but beware of heat melting the ferrule, and it is going to be difficult to keep it square.

Getting rid of the brass threaded insert should actually improve the cue's performance (less end mass = less deflection). However, if you don't care about deflection you could just fill the insert and glue the tip on as noted above.

If you have access to a bench sander it is pretty easy to set up a guide perpendicular to the abrasive surface to get a nice square finish.
 
Having the ferrules replaced is the best option of course.

Done a few both ways. The issue is there is a heavy brass insert. Filling it with epoxy is just adding to the problem. Typically, the ferrule is long on these so you can cut off the end and still have enough ferrule to work with.


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Ferrule replaced on this one.
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Ferrule with end of insert cut off.
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Amaury said:
I wish to put glued tips instead on it,
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Well I have avoided this topic, as I have limited exposure to screw on tips.
The best looking solution will possibly cost more than the cue is worth. 🤷‍♂️
Sooo, I would screw the tip in then take my razor knife and cut the leather off and replace with my chosen tip .( Lay Pro for me). Possibly I am not understanding why that wouldn't be acceptable solution. 🤷‍♂️
Personally I would keep the screw in for the illusion of a clueless new bee. Kinda like Stealth mode. Wait a minute one of my favorite old fart hustlers did something similar with a $20 Montgomery Wards cue. Pretty sure the tip was screw in. He harvested lots of money using it. And oh yeah pretending he was drunk. Drunk Act Kelly was legend in the Tacoma area.
 
SSDiver2112 said:
Having the ferrules replaced is the best option of course.

Done a few both ways. The issue is there is a heavy brass insert. Filling it with epoxy is just adding to the problem. Typically, the ferrule is long on these so you can cut off the end and still have enough ferrule to work with.


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Ferrule replaced on this one.
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Ferrule with end of insert cut off.
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Good post thanks. Shortening the ferrule👍
 
Everything depends on how confident you are in doing the work as others described above. My experience with do it yourself cue repairs is that if you are not 100% confident when you actually start touching your cues- one is better off having it done by someone who gets it right every time.

That someone is Troy Downey at Mueller cue Repair ( website) _ I have sent tip and ferrule work ,among other cue repairs, to Mueller since 1990- 36 years- and never an issue- and the best prices in America - for a Dufferin cue you can go $45 for a new ferrule and tip- this includes complete shaft reconditioning- they will be like brand new and all 5 cues will be the same !

I sincerely respect all other's suggestions, but if your budget allows - please do this if you are an inexperienced cue repair person - trying to cut ferrules to exact sizes on 5 cues, face them off perfectly, and add new tips in perfect alignment is not a job for any novice IMO.
 
gregcantrall said:
Well I have avoided this topic, as I have limited exposure to screw on tips.
The best looking solution will possibly cost more than the cue is worth. 🤷‍♂️
Sooo, I would screw the tip in then take my razor knife and cut the leather off and replace with my chosen tip .( Lay Pro for me). Possibly I am not understanding why that wouldn't be acceptable solution. 🤷‍♂️
Personally I would keep the screw in for the illusion of a clueless new bee. Kinda like Stealth mode. Wait a minute one of my favorite old fart hustlers did something similar with a $20 Montgomery Wards cue. Pretty sure the tip was screw in. He harvested lots of money using it. And oh yeah pretending he was drunk. Drunk Act Kelly was legend in the Tacoma area.
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The ones people have brought me hated them because the tip would come loose and they played terrible. The long ferrule, brass insert, and brass screw create a lot of deflection also.

I don't charge extra to cut it off if I am installing the tip. If someone is trying to do it by hand, they will have to square-up the screw on part, so might as well cut it back and square that up. Same difference. I don't think the OP is trying to hustle so that probably isn't an issue.
 
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