Pop And Slop said:
I guess you have never had your opponant go to shoot the 9 in the side and have is hit the nipple and shoot down the rail into the corner. I would call that losing by the other player being lucky.
Jay
Oh, many times.
Mostly I remember this kind of shots happening when playing snooker though...
If I had played well, he would not be shooting the nine. And if I shoot well, I'll get another chance to win.
And I think luck is a factor in 9ball, to me it's part of the rules. The rules are made for luck to be a factor. So I never lost because of luck, because luck is part of the game. It's like if you say you lost because of luck in Backgammon or some dice game... I don't think so. Luck is there and it's your task to minimize it's value to the opponent.
I have won because of luck, as I know what I tried, and what happened was not it. But I have not lost because of luck, as what the opponent does is his task, and I don't know if he played this or that on purpose, it was his turn, he played to best of his ability... and so do I, and I play only my turn, not his.
I do watch the opponent play, but what I am thinking what I would do if I was him, and if he does something else, I think why he did it and is there something for me to learn there. When he plays, I'm not looking to beat him, I'm looking to beat him when I play! When I watch the opponent play, I exclude myself and my out of the game, trying to visualize whta I would do if I faced what the opponent is facing.
And, for example, when I scratched, it was not because of luck it was because I played carelessly, cannoning on to another ball, not taking care of the cue ball path as well I should have. Or then I took a deliberate risk. A risk will have it's downside, but you need to take some risk almost every time... you just try to maximize the payoff (net of risk).
Even if I lost due to coin toss and the other guy running out all to 9-0, I still don't think I lost due to luck. I lost because the guy played well, and the rules were set and agreed upon. The coin toss was a risk that I knew.
That's how I see it. It may seem like stubborness or something. But I see it like that. In competitive games that is.