I know that the current, professional rules for 10-ball specify that the 10 is always the last ball potted for the win, but when I learned the game an early *called* 10-ball counted. I checked a few sites online, but have not found one that supports an early 10-ball win. Can anyone confirm that having been the case in the past--or has it always been 10 absolutely last?
10-Ball Last Rule
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It's pool. Any rule people agree on. In the Philippines most of the Ytubed money matches are wild 10 - just like 9 ball. Sometimes you use a last 10 or 9 rule to prevent money ball strings.
WPA rules are "last ball".
CSI/BCA are "any legal shot after the break"...
CSI/BCA are "any legal shot after the break"...
Even the Predator Pro Billiard Series events aren't standardized. The championship events, e.g. the World 10 Ball Championship, spot early 10 balls whereas the regular events, e.g. the Las Vegas Open, count them as wins.
iirc the rules changed around 2013
There may be others, but that's of the very few rules that I can think of where CSI and WPA rules differ...
10b last is bad enough, thankfully most places don't play call shot/call safe. Gotta be the worst rule ever.
The WPA rules for 10-ball first appeared in the January, 2008 rules revision. My understanding is that a pro player asked for them to be written to remove the luck seen in 9-ball. Until that time, I believe 10-ball was played with 9-ball rules but with an extra ball. I remember when the better players were playing ring games (about 1980 era), they played 10-ball to cut down on the run outs. In a five-handed game you want to get more than a shot per hour.
There were a number of pro 10-ball tournaments prior to 2008 but I don't know the exact rules used. I don't recall any special rules mentioned at the time.
In 9 ball under 3point break rules, is the 9 good on the break if the break is otherwise bad? (non compliant)
In the Bigfoot tourney at DCC we always played Ten Ball with 9-Ball rules. Greg and I agreed on this from the start. IMO the best way to play the game.
I like express ten-ball with one exception: call the 10b. Best of both worlds imo.
Ball in hand on a the 8b break in CSI vs behind the line (WPA) is another notable one.
And now WPA is always all ball fouls.
Which is how all major competitions should have been played forever. If a league or group of amateur players feels the players shouldn't be bothered to avoid touching balls randomly -- it will spoil their enjoyment, or something -- they can always make up their own CBFO rule. The CSI CBFO rules are reasonably complete.
Mike Zuglan has a sort of in between rule. Some touches are fouls and some are not, depending on the timing.