9 ball - miscue on break question

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In 9 ball, if the opponent is breaking and miscues (does not touch the rack), can you then take ball in hand, just barely touch the 1 ball sending the cue ball to the back of the pack and attempt to 3 foul them using this type of method.

Or, after the miscue, do you have to be behind the break line and then basically you have to break.

Just curious.
 
I'm glad you posed this question. I just looked up the 9 ball rules, and you can, indeed, take ball in hand anywhere on the table. That's not how we play here...but that's good to know.

The rules governing the break shot are the same as for other shots except:

1. The breaker must strike the1-ball first and either pocket a ball or drive at least four numbered balls to the rail.
2. If the cue ball is pocketed or driven off the table, or the requirements of the opening break are not met, it is a foul, and the incoming player has cue ball in hand anywhere on the table.
3. If on the break shot, the breaker causes an object ball to jump off the table, it is a foul and the incoming player has cue ball in hand anywhere on the table. The object ball is not respotted (exception: if the object ball is the 9-ball, it is respotted).
 
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under world standard rules,
you have ball in hand anywhere on the table. you can attempt to 3 foul just as if the breaker broke and scratched.
 
I think in Texas Express rules if you miscue on the break and the rack isnt touched, your opponent gets to break. If the balls are touched and 4 balls do not hit a rail, then its a foul and your opponent has ball in hand.

Southpaw
 
Be careful however, lots of halls around me have 'rules' for the break... so you might want to cover that before the tournament or money game.
 
What about the issue of the rack still not being broken? Wouldn't the incoming player with BIH anywhere on the table still have to make a legal break shot?
 
As per BCA rules, if the requirements of the opening break are not met, it is a foul, and therefore BIH anywhere. So, the opening break is when the cue tip hits the cue ball, not when 4 balls are driven to a rail. Hope that clears things up.
 
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