A different tournament FORMAT

Tom In Cincy

AKA SactownTom
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First, this will only work if you have dedicated tables for these tournaments.

A pool hall with 8 tables would be a good start.

This is called a LINE tournament.
With 8 tables you can have 16 players or 17 with a bye and a win.

Line tournaments are played in a set 'time frame' mine are 2½ hours.

All the players are ranked/seeded. With the best players getting the lower numbers (best player is #1 second best is #2 and so on untill the last player is ranked/seeded #16 or #17)

The tables should have numbers according to the seed/rank of the players.
example;
The opening round of play, Player #1 will play Player #2 on table #1
Player 3 vrs 4 on table 2
Player 5 vrs 6 on table 3
xx
xx
Player 15 vrs 16 on table 8

When the first round of play is completed there will be 8 winners.
The winners move up a table number. The losers move down.

example;
if player 5 wins the match against 6, on table 3, P5 moves up to table 2 and P6 moved down to table 4.

When you win on the top table (#1) you stay there.
When you lose on the bottome table you stay there.
Everyone else will be moving to a different table.

In 2½ hours of 9 Ball with average players, you can complete about 15 rounds.

The players with the most wins gets 1st Place
Ties can be played off or split.

The gist of the format is that the top players will be beating up on each other and the bottom players will be doing the same.

Keeping track of the wins for each round is the TDs responsibility and I don't recommend the TD playing in the tournament.

We've been alternating between 9 Ball and 8 Ball on Saturday afternoons since the first of December. Lots of fun and have been averaging 16+ players.

I can see this being done during the week on a slow nite. 730 to 10pm, quick and easy.
 
Tom In Cincy said:
We've been alternating between 9 Ball and 8 Ball on Saturday afternoons since the first of December. Lots of fun and have been averaging 16+ players.

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Awesome. I am glad it's working well.

I mentioned this several times over the years on CCB and never really got any response. I guess if nobody has ever played in one they do not realize how much fun they can be. No waiting around (well maybe 5 minutes), Just constant play.

I guess Snookers in Cincy is still having them. I have not been in there in a while. IIRC I have seen as many as 18 rounds in 8-ball and 23 in 9-ball.
 
Wally in Cincy said:
Awesome. I am glad it's working well.

I mentioned this several times over the years on CCB and never really got any response. I guess if nobody has ever played in one they do not realize how much fun they can be. No waiting around (well maybe 5 minutes), Just constant play.

I guess Snookers in Cincy is still having them. I have not been in there in a while. IIRC I have seen as many as 18 rounds in 8-ball and 23 in 9-ball.


I use to play in that Saturday tournament at Snookers all the time. Even after the tournament was over, matching up was rather easy. Lots of fun and some great players.
 
Question too

What system do you use to rank/seed the players. i.e.
Chohan, Palmer, Kang, Gebron
 
nfty9er said:
What system do you use to rank/seed the players. i.e.
Chohan, Palmer, Kang, Gebron

Given the large number of rounds played, it probably doesn't matter very much. The game results will sort the players out quite quickly. This is the first time I've heard of this system, and I like it quite a bit. It's clearly a relative of the Swiss System used for, e.g., chess tournaments, lacking the history-based numerical evaluation of playing strength. If such a tournament was run regularly (even just monthly) at the same place, then if the TD kept win/played ratios ranking would become pretty easy (and accurate) after several tournaments. For people who have no ranking (i.e., they haven't previously played in the tournament series) you just rank them in the middle, or maybe in the upper quarter if you want to be harsher.
 
Who breaks (winners or losers)? What type of entry fee do you use? What does the poolroom take for table time?

Sounds like a very interesting format.

Woody
 
nfty9er said:
What system do you use to rank/seed the players. i.e.
Chohan, Palmer, Kang, Gebron

Currently I would rank these guys (if they played)
1. Kang
2. Chohan
3. Palmer
4. Gebron

I haven't had any complaints about the seeding (knock on wood). I have a pretty good idea about the speed of most of the players that have been playing.

The more difficult part is the lessor skilled players. A lot of these players are improving rapidly and it makes for a tough seed.
 
woody_968 said:
Who breaks (winners or losers)? What type of entry fee do you use? What does the poolroom take for table time?

Sounds like a very interesting format.

Woody


Each round, the matched up players will lag or flip for breaks.

$10 entry fee.

Pool room is very happy to have 16 customers in the room on Saturday afternoon from 230-5pm, the like it so much, they've added $40 to the pot.

With 16 players and $40 added make $200 for prize fund.
$80 for first
$60 2nd
$40 3rd
$20 4th

If two players tie for the most wins they split the total of 1st and 2nd place money.

If three players tie for most wins, they split the money for 1st, 2nd and 3rd.

We've had as many as 22 players one Saturday and are considering doing this on Tuesday nights.
 
Hey Tom, how do you work in the bye? I assume you are putting it at the bottom and leaving it there but just wanted to make sure I was clear on this. I have talked to a room owner and plan on trying to get one of these going soon.

Thanks.

Woody
 
Hey Tom-
Glad to see you still involved down there at Hardtimes when I stopped by. Are you still shooting with your Omen? I was checking out his website the other day and started to drool. Are you playing in Oroville at the large bar tourney?
 
UWPoolGod1 said:
Hey Tom-
Glad to see you still involved down there at Hardtimes when I stopped by. Are you still shooting with your Omen? I was checking out his website the other day and started to drool. Are you playing in Oroville at the large bar tourney?


Still at Hardtimes. Still shooting with the Omen. NOT going to Oroville, got too much to do at Hardtimes. I'm running 4 tournaments during the play dates for Oroville, and a Huge $1000 added ONE Day March 5th tournament.

Lots to do... little time.. Got to keep off these forums...

Good to hear from you...
 
woody_968 said:
Hey Tom, how do you work in the bye? I assume you are putting it at the bottom and leaving it there but just wanted to make sure I was clear on this. I have talked to a room owner and plan on trying to get one of these going soon.

Thanks.

Woody

Woddy,

Usually the odd player is seeded lowest. This player will probably not win many matches but will be awarded a WIN by not having to play anyone.

Keeps even the least skilled players coming because they can win 'byes' and never win a match and still come out close to or even in the win-loss and maybe in the money with 'ties'
 
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