A scammer has reared his ugly head!

pooltablemech

pooltablemech

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Since the GC4 I was trying to sell sold............I will post this scammers email. We were trying to get more info from the guy and lead him on that we would do this, go ahead and send the check. But he quit responding eventually. Here is the email....................



Thanks a lot for your mail it is highly appreciated. Yes I am still interested in the Brunswick Gold Crown
Like I said earlier I am based in Amsterdam the Netherlands (Holland). As regards shipping I have made arrangements with shipping Company and they have agreed to come for the pick up as soon as we conclude our own part of the transaction. So you don’t need to bother as per the shipping.

As regards payment, this is what I am going to do, I have an Agent (Agent's Company) in the US who owes me $6,800 I would instruct him to make out a cheque to you in that amount and as soon as you clear your bank, you can let me have my balance via western union money transfer. The reason why I ma doing this is because if I decide to send payment from over here it might take a long time before it goes through, but a check sent from over there within US would clear between 2 and 3 days.

Although the value of the check is more than the price of the Brunswick Gold Crown but I thing I can trust you with my balance considering the fact that I still have to trust you with the item. Pls if you are interested in selling to me, I would appreciate it if you could get back to me so that we can proceed. Pls I would need for you to provide me with your name as you would want it to appear on the check and your address and phone number so that I can have my Agent contact his Company for the Issuing of the Check from his Bank sent to you inform of a Check ASAP.

Thanks in this regard and I would be expecting to hear from you soonest. But I think I can trust you with my balance considering the fact that I still have to trust you with the item. Pls if you are interested in selling to me, I would appreciate it if you could get back to me so that we can proceed. Pls I would need for you to provide me with your name as you would want it to appear on the check and your address and phone number so that I can have my Agent contact you ASAP. Thanks in this regard and I would be expecting to hear from you soonest.

Regards



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Maybe he was starting to set you up, but as posted I don't see a scam. Now if he asked you for your bank info so he could wire the money..... That's a scam.

Troy
 
What do you mean TROY? That is a classic one........they send you a fake check, and they want you to send the difference to them western union?????.....come on! That makes no sense! Why all the trouble? Why does he just happen to have a check alittle bigger than what the table cost? Makes no sense!
 
"As regards payment, this is what I am going to do, I have an Agent (Agent's Company) in the US who owes me $6,800 I would instruct him to make out a cheque to you in that amount and as soon as you clear your bank, you can let me have my balance via western union money transfer. "

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Wheres the scam here ?

unless you get a check and then transfer the difference via Western union w/o encashing the check in the first place then it could be a scam right ?
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I guess that's how they get people.....the ones that would do this are the ones that don't see it! You mean to tell me you would do this? Some guy posted on here that he got caught in a similar thing. He got the check and 2 weeks later he found out it wasn't good.....after he had sent the cues he sold and the difference. We tried to get this guy to go ahead and send it....but hasn't responded. All I have to say is...........Who here would actually do this?
 
I dont know much about the sale"s of cues but i would never send the cues unless i got the cash first!
 
It was I who almost got jacked by a guy like this.
I did send the money over Western Union, but not my cues.

I ultimately only got dinged for a couple hundred bucks, rather than the several thousands that people get nailed for every day on this scam. I sent over $8600.00 to this guy for over payment on a large cue sale. Long story short, BOA ate the money due to what their tellers told me.... and I only paid my Western Union Transaction fees.
See http://www.scamvictimsunited.com for more details on how HUGE of a problem this is in the United States, my ID was "poolcues". These poeple make 100's of millions of dollars every year off of Americans and the US government will not do anything about it.
I quote from the secret service agent here in Seattle that I spoke to "we are helpless against these people". The most common victims are people selling their cars @ autotrader.com. Obviously those Nigerian freaks know people are on to them so they are spreading out to other types of businesses for their scams.

PTM,Do you know if he got your contact info from this site???
I feel your prior comments were meant towards me, and you know that. You may not agree, but I am no fool. I know from many years of doing business to watch my back, and when I went into the bank I knew all the right questions to ask the merchant teller I deal with. The check fooled all their managers, well, just read my other thread. I of course was suspicious of the deal, but figured after the bank assured me that if the Cashiers check is good, it is as good as cash. These crooks have top notch forgery artists working for them, even Bank of America can't stop from cashing fraudulent checks drawn on their own bank due to the clearing system they use between their branches.
 
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EXACTLY!!!!! This is the 3rd time I have gotten this type email. Others were for cues..........Guy said he would pay me twice retail for 3 Schons. Said they were hard to get in Asia.....but had a Check for 4000 over.....and want me to wire him the difference. I figured this time we would try and get one of these checks, just to see one. And try to see if it might help stop it.
 
I only posted that table on this site and one other place.....I would think they saw it here, because the other place is small. Bestbilliards I think. Hey King........I didn't mean anything towards you, I had forgotten it was you that said they got taken on this. What I said I ment to the guy that said WHAT SCAM?.......First time I saw the scam....I thought it was a sweet deal. I was gonna take the check and when I got cash in hand I would send what ever he wanted. Not sure I would let the bank renig, If they said it was good! But you can't argue with the bank. Not sure how I would get straight cash for the check, but I would figure out how....so the bank wouldn't get the chance to renig. Sorry if you thought I was speakin at ya......not intended!:mad: :p
 
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This sounds like that old Nigerian Prince wants to send you money but we need a check from you to get it cleared.:D
I kid you not. I received this e-mail about two years ago.
 
OK PTM, no harm no foul. I am glad that you didnt go for this. My intention by proclaiming my ignorance to this forum is to inform everyone else here that these people are contacting others through this site.
I had never heard of this scam before I went through this ordeal. Had I ever read this type of thread, I would have been better informed and not fallen for this.

One thing you can do at this point if you are still in contact with him. SCAM THE SCAMMER! Make him send you multiple checks, tell him each time you never received it. the check supposedly cost the scammers a bundle to have made. I even spoke to the guy who jerked me, after I was on to him I had him keep calling me, because the LD charges on the secured lines they use are huge. I told him I wired the remaining money to a Western Union branch about 40 miles away from where he was in London, by accident, just to get him to drive there. It was fun while it lasted.
 
Not sure how I would get straight cash for the check
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The bank is required by law to pay out the funds immeadiately. The only reason I got off is due to the Midnight law, which states that the bank is required by law to inform of their knowledge that the check was forged by midnight of the same business day. BOA had their heads up their ass, and never called. I only found out as I was going to withdraw money from that account to cover the costs for sending my cues away. Then I caught it cause the account was negative 12K HOLY *&^@!%*^!!! I said!...as I am sure you can imagine. I informed the bank I knew of their mishap and was prepared to take them to court, and received notification a couple days later that they would cover the losses. What an ordeal.
 
Good for you! I sent him an email and said if he wanted that table he better hurry because another guy is interested.......so he had 1 more day or I was selling it. I am sure if he found me here he will be reading what were saying........SO, IF YA OUT THERE! Might wanna find a different group of people ya simple minded basturd!
 
An increasingly common fraud...

This is becoming very common, due to the ability to produce counterfeir bankers drafts/cashiers checks on home PC equipment.

What is really unpleasant is that most banks will assure you that the check is valid, credit the check to your account the same day so you are confident about wiring the balance to the scam artist. However when the bank finally figures out it is countefeirt they will debit your account for the whole amount, accepting no responsability for taking the check in the first place. Frankly this has to change. If it takes them 10 days to confirm the funding for bankers drafts/cashier checks, just like a regular check they should make that clear to the customer and not release the funds until it has cleared.

Of course they don't want to do this as there is a huge amount of legitimate national and international business done with bankers drafts/cashier checks that they do not want to risk disrupting, nor do they like admitting publicly that they can be so easily fooled.

Some really unlucky people have even been arrested when presenting the countefeit checks at their bank.

A few sites for more information, pleanty more can be found with a quick Google search:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/12/05/eveningnews/consumer/main587162.shtml
http://www.pueblo.gsa.gov/cic_text/housing/hcloans/fraud.html
 
I'm not saying this person wasn't trying to scam you but if you could have gotten his money first, and it sounded like you could, then where's the scam? I understand it's a scam if he wants you to front him the table before you get paid but I didn't interpret it that way. It just sounded to me like you could have gotten the money first and then send him the table and his balance. You would have known, if you couldn't cash the check, if the deal was no good.
 
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