Aiming systems in other sports/hobbies/areas

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Aiming is something all humans do whether it's throwing a wad of paper in a trash can, driving a car, pouring a drink etc.... the paradigm for a long time has been that you either have it or you don't and if you don't then your ability to succeed will be limited. The common thought is that if you don't already possess "talent" in the form of superior visual acuity plus a superior textbook stroke and fundamentals then practice can only take you so far.

But in just about every human endeavor humans push the envelope of what they can do through the way they practice, the way they collaborate, the technology they invent and the mental techniques they discover or create. That's why we can do a lot of things better now than at any time in the past. It was thought to be beyond the physical abilities of a human being to run a mile in under four minutes. Now high school teeangers regularly do it. Dick Fosbury created another way to high jump and shattered world records.

There are insanely skilled humans who often say that they just see it or just know it when asked HOW they achieved the level of skill that they have. But the very best often have a far more mundane explanation, a serious drive to try everything and keep what works and hone their skills with what was kept by practicing deeply. The very best often simply KNOW more than those below them and they have mastered what they know to the point that most of what they do is as normal as breathing. They incorporate techniques that aren't always easy to see or recognize. Unless you understood springboard diving techniques you wouldn't understand the aiming methods that divers learn to keep them oriented when doing things like double twisting two and a halfs. But they exist and they work and those that do not know them often fail at their dives, sometimes causing serious injury when they get "lost" midair.

So this thread is dedicated to finding the various aiming systems, either purely visual techniques, combinations of visual and physical techniques, and technological methods designed to train visual acuity.

This is not intended to say that any aiming system in pool is therefore effective or "objective". It is merely to give some perspective from other areas in life where accurate aiming is essential to the task. And to show that brute force trial and error IS NOT the only way that people improve their aiming skills in those other activities.

Feel free to post what you find and include whatever criticisms you find. I think we will see that that in some areas similar debates are had over efficacy. Teachers and inventors of "aiming methods" are praised by some and ridiculed by others. Which goes back to the whatever works for you adage. The bottom line is that when it is you and a pool table you can put as much or as little effort as you want to into improving your ability. You can totally go full brute force no instruction hit a million balls trial and error muscle memory building or you can adopt a strict regimen of technique and drills to measure your progress and anything in between. And the top line is that in order to succeed at the activity you must develop and maintain your skills to the point that you can remain at the level you are happy with. That's it.

As this quote explains it perfectly I will let it stand for my feelings on the matter.

"Donaldson explains it by saying a robot with a perfect stroke will hole nothing if it aims in the wrong place. Whereas, give the robot a stroke that is variable and it will sometimes be successful whether it aims in the right place or not. And many golfers, being perfectionists, do hate leaving matters to chance."

From this page on the Aim Point system for reading the green in golf.
 
Aim Point Express


"A couple of years earlier in 2009, Mark Sweeney, a computer whizz from Texas, was watching golf on TV when it occurred to him how cool it would be if the audience could see the correct line of a putt before the player hit it. He developed a three-dimensional laser scan that could plot every nuance and break on a green so that the television broadcasters could do exactly that. His program was accurate to a 32nd-of-an-inch and delivered a one per cent error rating in eight years on TV.

The success of this project taught Sweeney that putting was predictable. He created a chart that looked like four dart boards, each relating to a percentage of slope, and it had 600 numbers on it. It was possible to calculate using the angle that you’re crossing the slope, plus the distance, what the break would be. When John Graham arrived in Cambridge to meet the ‘golf perverts’, he left an indelible impression. Some could see the merits, while others were baffled with the maths. But Donaldson was mesmerised and excited.

“When I saw this thing, I realised it was complex but it got me very interested, very quickly. At that time, you had to identify green shapes and understand the topography. There were patterns that would happen and you needed to recognise them visually. Once you were able to do that then there was a way of calculating break. It was very technical then.” Two weeks later, Mark Sweeney rescheduled a flight from Bangkok to visit Donaldson in Cambridge. The pair locked themselves in an office and talked. Sweeney explained all his findings and it was a meeting that was to change Donaldson’s life for good.

“I was working with the PGA at the time, teaching club pros how to teach, not what to teach. I was able to apply that to Mark’s system to make it easier to follow. I said to him, ‘This product is incredible but it’s too hard to understand’. We took a very technical system and, in two years, turned it into something we can teach eight-year-olds.

 
I didn't watch the vid, but the content you posted sounds cool enough. The one thing a scan and calculated plot wouldn't account for is the spd of the green. They have something called a "stimp meter" or gauge that applies a value of "speed" to the green. The speed would be a key factor in any calculation of aim point.

Closest comparison to pool would be determining swerve based on cloth
 
Ghost basketball ring is taught in shooting bballs.

That would be helpful if pool tables were not level.
Btw, golf has more gimmicks than pool will ever have .
The average golfer does not have enough time to become a decent golfer even.
Most golfers are hacks .
It's a lot easier to get good in pool than in golf because of the time constraints .
Never mind the cost .
There's a new latest and greatest clubs every year in golf .
The point Joey is to explore what is being done in other activities not necessarily to say that anything found is applicable to aiming in pool. The original intent of the internet was to share information through linking so that all those interested in knowing and using that information could access it where it resides on the web. When people are exposed to new methods they might make connections that no one else ever thought of previously. It isn't productive to speculate on what won't work in terms of whether some method highlighted here can be useful in pool. Look for anything that might be helpful if you want to make a connection or don't expend any thought at all about them. This thread is intended more for just highlighting what's out there more for general interest and contrast than intended to be instructional in nature.

I am interested in how other sports/activities treat aiming, what's the conventional way, what's the controversial way, what's the research if any, etc....

As for what time a person has to spend on improving that varies by person but I think universally spending the time wisely to get the maximum benefit applies to all those at any level who are genuinely interested in continuous improvement. Yes, there are "gimmicks" and there are legitimate new techniques. Some people are "lesson takers" and "gearheads" who like to explore new stuff for whatever reasons they have. Some people might legitimately say to themselves that learning a new technique or buying a new piece of equipment will greatly improve their results and spend time chasing improvement through superficial attempts. Others might think that given the information something is worth trying with every intention of giving it a reasonable and serious chance by mastering the technique.

The overriding point here is that for innovation to happen people MUST be looking beyond the status quo and beyond the conventional paradigms to create new methods and new products. The people creating those methods and products are generally not scammers and they genuinely believe that they have something of great value to offer to the practitioners that will help them achieve measurable improvement. And in order to find out what value is there people need to be trying these things to see if results are improved.
 


The researchers also found the optimal points where the simulated made baskets were aimed. The results show the optimal aim points make a "V" shape near the top center of the backboard's "square," which is actually a 24-inch by 18-inch rectangle which surrounds the rim. Away from the free-throw lane, these aim points were higher on the backboard and thus further from the rim. From closer to the free-throw lane, the aim points were lower on the backboard and closer to the rim.

The researchers also discovered that if you imagine a vertical line 3.327 inches behind the backboard and found where it crossed the aim point on the "V" shape on the backboard, you'd find the optimal spot to bank the basketball to score a basket.

"Basketball players can't take a slide rule out on the court, but our study suggests that a few intuitive assumptions about bank shots are true," says Dr. Larry Silverberg, professor of mechanical and aerospace engineering at NC State and the lead author of a paper describing the research. "They can be more effective than direct shots, especially from certain areas of the court -- and we show which areas on the court and where the ball needs to hit the backboard."
 
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Got some aiming tips for different types of shots here
 
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