Airplanes

Hi Jenn,

Do you have a pic or URL of your cue case?

I've heard many horror stories of valuables (including pool cues) regularly being stolen by airline baggage handlers. My wife experienced this 1st hand when her ring box went missing after our honeymoon only 3 months ago (fortunately, that box was empty).
 
JennBarretta said:
I have to check it. I use one of those padded bags that you put your whole case in.

JEANETTE: I SENT A LETTER TO EWE LAURENCE TODAY TO LOBBY THE TSA ASAP AS THEY ARE CHANGING THE RULES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE IDIOTIC NOTION THAT A PLANE WILL BE TAKEN OVER BY A POOL CUE IS NUTS; PASSENGERS WILL STOP ANY THOUGHT OF THAT AFTER 9/11. I WAS PREVENTED FROM BRINGING A PUTTER ON A PLANE BY THE TSA AND WENT BACK THROUGH THE LINE AND HELD IT LIKE A CANE AND THEY LET ME RIGHT ON THE PLANE!!! WPBA, BCA, APA, PLAYERS, ETC. COULD ALL SIGN A LETTER RECOMMENDING THE CHANGE.

DABABE
 
DABABE said:
JEANETTE: I SENT A LETTER TO EWE LAURENCE TODAY TO LOBBY THE TSA ASAP AS THEY ARE CHANGING THE RULES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE IDIOTIC NOTION THAT A PLANE WILL BE TAKEN OVER BY A POOL CUE IS NUTS; PASSENGERS WILL STOP ANY THOUGHT OF THAT AFTER 9/11. I WAS PREVENTED FROM BRINGING A PUTTER ON A PLANE BY THE TSA AND WENT BACK THROUGH THE LINE AND HELD IT LIKE A CANE AND THEY LET ME RIGHT ON THE PLANE!!! WPBA, BCA, APA, PLAYERS, ETC. COULD ALL SIGN A LETTER RECOMMENDING THE CHANGE.

DABABE
I wonder what they're going to do when they complete (if it's not already completed) that double decker airplane that supposedly is going to house a pool table.

I use the Joe Porper travel case when I travel too.
 
I like the Porper case, but I really wish it had a detachable shoulder strap on it. It can be very awkward to carry, especially when you're dealing with a suitcase and a carry on bag.
 
9 Ball Girl said:
I wonder what they're going to do when they complete (if it's not already completed) that double decker airplane that supposedly is going to house a pool table.
That table will not be for the passengers, silly. It is a game for the pilots to keep them entertained thru their travel time. You have a pilot and a co-pilot one is high balls and one is low balls. (Yeah I know you know how to play, LOL) Each pilot must maneuver the plane so that the CB hits the OB....cues are not needed, thus no violation. :D
 
landshark77 said:
That table will not be for the passengers, silly. It is a game for the pilots to keep them entertained thru their travel time. You have a pilot and a co-pilot one is high balls and one is low balls. (Yeah I know you know how to play, LOL) Each pilot must maneuver the plane so that the CB hits the OB....cues are not needed, thus no violation. :D
Ahhhh, that'll make for an interesting flight! :D
 
9 Ball Girl said:
Ahhhh, that'll make for an interesting flight! :D

Of course....pocket billiards is an interesting game. I predict everyone will be on the edge of their seats. :eek:
 
dababe said:
jeanette: I Sent A Letter To Ewe Laurence Today To Lobby The Tsa Asap As They Are Changing The Rules In The Next Couple Of Weeks. The Idiotic Notion That A Plane Will Be Taken Over By A Pool Cue Is Nuts; Passengers Will Stop Any Thought Of That After 9/11. I Was Prevented From Bringing A Putter On A Plane By The Tsa And Went Back Through The Line And Held It Like A Cane And They Let Me Right On The Plane!!! Wpba, Bca, Apa, Players, Etc. Could All Sign A Letter Recommending The Change.

Dababe
Jennifer; What An Idiot I Am!!!!!!!!!!! I Had Just Talked To Jeanette And Then Butchered Your Name; Sorry. Never Heard A Word From Any Billiard Organization I Wrote; Guess I Am The Only One Who Hates Checking A Cue.

Dababe
 
DABABE said:
JEANETTE: I SENT A LETTER TO EWE LAURENCE TODAY TO LOBBY THE TSA ASAP AS THEY ARE CHANGING THE RULES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE IDIOTIC NOTION THAT A PLANE WILL BE TAKEN OVER BY A POOL CUE IS NUTS; PASSENGERS WILL STOP ANY THOUGHT OF THAT AFTER 9/11. I WAS PREVENTED FROM BRINGING A PUTTER ON A PLANE BY THE TSA AND WENT BACK THROUGH THE LINE AND HELD IT LIKE A CANE AND THEY LET ME RIGHT ON THE PLANE!!! WPBA, BCA, APA, PLAYERS, ETC. COULD ALL SIGN A LETTER RECOMMENDING THE CHANGE.

DABABE


If Jeanette actually said this, I'd be very surprised. What appears to be over-done by us poolplayers seems perfectly logical once you step outside our way of thinking. Being a New Yorker, you cannot go a day without thinking of September 11th and when you go over the details of that day, it's unthinkable that four commercial jets could all be subdued by a total of 19 passengers with only box-cutters. A LOT of people died that day and I would never want to be a part of a movement that eased airline security. I've flown several times with my cues after 9/11 and have had no problems whatsoever. You check them in with your luggage when you get to the airport. If your cue is so expensive that you're worried about doing such, either learn to give up those events or learn to play with a cheaper cue. If someone can show me multiple instances of people losing cues while flying, they'll have something to argue. If they can prove any sort of damage, they'll have something to argue. If they're just worried, trust me, there are plenty more people who are far more worried about more important things. In my opinion, checking one's cue is a small price to pay so that the general public feels a little safer, even if it does seem to not make any sense.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
If Jeanette actually said this, I'd be very surprised. What appears to be over-done by us poolplayers seems perfectly logical once you step outside our way of thinking. Being a New Yorker, you cannot go a day without thinking of September 11th and when you go over the details of that day, it's unthinkable that four commercial jets could all be subdued by a total of 19 passengers with only box-cutters. A LOT of people died that day and I would never want to be a part of a movement that eased airline security. I've flown several times with my cues after 9/11 and have had no problems whatsoever. You check them in with your luggage when you get to the airport. If your cue is so expensive that you're worried about doing such, either learn to give up those events or learn to play with a cheaper cue. If someone can show me multiple instances of people losing cues while flying, they'll have something to argue. If they can prove any sort of damage, they'll have something to argue. If they're just worried, trust me, there are plenty more people who are far more worried about more important things. In my opinion, checking one's cue is a small price to pay so that the general public feels a little safer, even if it does seem to not make any sense.

I have an instance where we traveled across the US and we needed this one cue, which we checked very carefully and explained to the airlines what it was. Needless to say the airline lost it. They did manage to "find" it the last day of our stay, however to our horror it arrived with the package ripped in half, the cue sticking out, and soaking wet. I guess the put it on one of those underwater planes?? :rolleyes: Anyway, it was ruined and we wasted a trip and alot of money. HOWEVER, I agree with you Jude 100%. I think that one cue and wasted trip was a small sacrafice to stay safe. On our end it all worked out....even if it didn't, like I said...it is a small price. BTW, we have flown since then with cues without any problems. Those Porper cases really are the bomb.
 
I think the poster was just trying to say that he didn't think anyone was going to hijack a plane with a pool cue, and I have to say I tend to agree with him. If you fly a lot internationaly you will notice that the security in the US is significantly greater than around the world, with maybe the exception of Israel. It is a real shock when you land/leave the states, it seems to be me that as sad as it sounds the terrorists really did steal more than what happened on 9/11. I don't want to be blown out the sky but on the same hand I think some of the measures taken in US airports are bordering on the ridiculous. For example as I mentioned before I was allowed to fly with a penknife but not my cue? I notice that metal knives are being used again on certain flights. Then just look at Madrid and London, it would still be the easiest thing in the world (god forbid) for a terrorist to walk on a subway or amtrak train with a backpack in NYC and blow it up.

Its a crazy sad sad world
 
airplanes

Folks: I Never Said Anyone Said Anything As There Were No "quotes". I Called Jennifer, Jeanette By Mistake In Responding To Mrs. Barretta's Comments. Many People Hate To Use Their 2 Bag Allowance With One Of Them Being A 20 Ounce Cue As If It Was A Weapon. As Far As 9/11 Goes, I Was On The Phone When The Planes Hit The Buildings And With A Lawyer Friend In The Building Who Went Down 26 Floors And Has Not Worked Since And 4 American Express Employees 4 Doors Away. I Am Totally Sensative But Not Paranoid As A Cue Will Not Ever Be Used To Take Over A Plane Nor Will A Nail Clipper Thanks To The Heroes Who Crashed The Plane In Pa. Having Dealt With The Tsa And The Idiot Secretary Of Transportation, I Was Merely Suggesting That Those That Wanted To Carry The Stick On, Now Was The Time To Write The Tsa As They Are Reviewing The Rules. It Not Only About Damamge But Theft As They Have Been Stolen; If You Don't Believe It, Look At The Tsa Lost Claims Report. Some Of You Have Lost To The Scum Of 9/11; Too Bad, I Wish You Well.

Sorry I Offended Anyone,

Dababe
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
If Jeanette actually said this, I'd be very surprised. What appears to be over-done by us poolplayers seems perfectly logical once you step outside our way of thinking. Being a New Yorker, you cannot go a day without thinking of September 11th and when you go over the details of that day, it's unthinkable that four commercial jets could all be subdued by a total of 19 passengers with only box-cutters. A LOT of people died that day and I would never want to be a part of a movement that eased airline security. I've flown several times with my cues after 9/11 and have had no problems whatsoever. You check them in with your luggage when you get to the airport. If your cue is so expensive that you're worried about doing such, either learn to give up those events or learn to play with a cheaper cue. If someone can show me multiple instances of people losing cues while flying, they'll have something to argue. If they can prove any sort of damage, they'll have something to argue. If they're just worried, trust me, there are plenty more people who are far more worried about more important things. In my opinion, checking one's cue is a small price to pay so that the general public feels a little safer, even if it does seem to not make any sense.



I get being upset by 9/11. I'm not a New Yorker and didn't lose anybody in the attack. However, I made it a point to go to New York the following spring and see things, be a tourist and go back to the city unlike some scared people who stayed away. And I am deeply angered by people being killed in the name of envy or irrationality, or some other irrational outlook of whatever sort. I get the security thing. I don't get the stupid rules that have done nothing whatsoever to increase safety. Pool cues on planes is a borderline deal. I can see that one going either way. But it is crazy to give up all our rights and conveniences to stop the last attack. There are infinite ways to attack innocent people. Most of the airline security rules they changed after 9/11 can only annoy the honest traveler and have done nothing to increase our safety. I really really take exception to the last sentence in your post. I don't care how a bunch of scared sheep feel. Whether they feel safe is their own psychological problem. The fact so many in our country cower in fear disappoints me, it is an insult to the founding fathers of this country. I will walk the streets of my country without fearing some nut lurking everywhere. (I do admit most of my walking is done in free states where citizens still enjoy their basic rights like carrying guns so that walking is safer, unlike those in NY :p ) Safety depends on rationally weighing risks and benefits of a particular policy. If the decision process regarding pool cues were rational, fine. But we know that little old ladies were hassled over a nail clipper while actual terrorists were still allowed to bring lighters for their C-4 on board. They finally got around to limiting lighters which were used in an actual incident, but a nail clipper with a file is ohhh so bad. it is nuts.
 
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landshark77 said:
That table will not be for the passengers, silly. It is a game for the pilots to keep them entertained thru their travel time.


I feel bad for all of the pilots out there now. What ever happened to good old cockpit entertainment when a group of stewardesses used to come in for an orgy at 35,000 feet and they all used to be hot looking? Tsk, tsk...what has this world come to?! :(
 
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