Anyone have a bob danielson ss360 1/2/3 shaft or know the pivot length for one?

[CeaseLess]

I've been looking for a new maple le deflection shaft and narrowed it down to a couple. I'm really interested in the ss360/2 but just wanted to know the pivot length to see if it matches my preferred bridge length. Any info will help, thanks in advance, -CeaseLess-

 

[Coos Cues]

I've been looking for a new maple le deflection shaft and narrowed it down to a couple. I'm really interested in the ss360/2 but just wanted to know the pivot length to see if it matches my preferred bridge length. Any info will help, thanks in advance, -CeaseLess-

Isn't the idea of LD shafts so you don't have to pin down an exact pivot sweet spot like with a hard maple shaft?

 

[maha]

problem for me is they are much farther back and that also hampers you using different strokes like back hand english if you dont want a long bridge. if you arent where they need you to be.

 

[Smoothrobinva]

I Love Bons cues and the shafts sent nothing but the truth !!! Very little if any adjustment needed

 

[CeaseLess]

I Love Bons cues and the shafts sent nothing but the truth !!! Very little if any adjustment needed

You have one of his cues? From what I hear I think it would be a perfect fit for me. Do you happen to know the pivot point length on your cue?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Isn't the idea of LD shafts so you don't have to pin down an exact pivot sweet spot like with a hard maple shaft?

All shafts have a “natural” pivot point that works with “plain vanilla” side spin, but needs adjusting for most shots.

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[Coos Cues]

All shafts have a “natural” pivot point that works with “plain vanilla” side spin, but needs adjusting for most shots.

pj
chgo

So what is the advantage of LD if it still has a fixed pivot point? I thought it was so you could shoot a larger range of side spin shots without adjusting your aim for deflection. The pivot point is where deflection and squirt cancel each other right? I guess I not only don't play with LD shafts but don't understand the snake oil inside of them either.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

So what is the advantage of LD if it still has a fixed pivot point?

No shaft has a "fixed" pivot point - they all move around depending on the shot details. A shaft's "natural" pivot point is actually its shortest pivot length (maximum squirt adjustment) - the pivot point that works when there's no swerve. Most shots have some swerve, so the usual pivot point is longer (less squirt adjustment).

I thought it was so you could shoot a larger range of side spin shots without adjusting your aim for deflection.

Nope - it just shifts the range of adjustments toward the longer pivot point, where smaller aim adjustments are needed.

The pivot point is where deflection and squirt cancel each other, right?

The "effective pivot point" (the pivot point for this shot's circumstances) is where squirt and swerve cancel each other.

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[CeaseLess]

No shaft has a "fixed" pivot point - they all move around depending on the shot details. A shaft's "natural" pivot point is actually its shortest pivot length (maximum squirt adjustment) - the pivot point that works when there's no swerve. Most shots have some swerve, so the usual pivot point is longer (less squirt adjustment).


Nope - it just shifts the range of adjustments toward the longer pivot point, where smaller aim adjustments are needed.


The "effective pivot point" (the pivot point for this shot's circumstances) is where squirt and swerve cancel each other.

pj
chgo

So if you have an extremely low deflection shaft, could your bridge be almost anywhere, with back hand english, and the cue still travel to your intended path, or do LD shafts still have a perfect pivot point to cancel swerve and squirt?

 

[Patrick Johnson]

So if you have an extremely low deflection shaft, could your bridge be almost anywhere, with back hand english, and the cue still travel to your intended path

Approximately. It's only exactly right when you shoot the shot with no swerve (hard/short with no cue elevation).

or do LD shafts still have a perfect pivot point to cancel swerve and squirt?

Only as I described above (for hard/short shots with no cue elevation - i.e., with no swerve reducing the "effective squirt").

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